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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
Cc: Thierry Vignaud <tvignaud@mandriva.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	dwmw2@infradead.org, jeffm@suse.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] firmware: Allow release-specific firmware dir
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:15:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080911201541.GA18518@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1221151165.6309.55.camel@californication>

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 06:39:25PM +0200, Marcel Holtmann wrote:
> Hi Greg,
> 
> > > > > This isn't compatible with the version of udev that people actually have
> > > > > installed, today. And it's also the _wrong_ thing to do.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Firmware really _isn't_ version-specific.
> > > > 
> > > > Tell that to every Debian and Debian derived system on the planet.
> > > > 
> > > > To my knowledge, it is only fedora and possibly one or two other dists
> > > > that put the firmware files in a unary /lib/firmware location, rather
> > > > than a versioned /lib/firmware/$KERNELRELASE one.
> > > 
> > > We (Mandriva Linux) do too.
> > > Why other distro cannot package firmware separatly for all their kernel
> > > flavors?
> > > 
> > > Firmware are not version-specific.
> > 
> > Yes it is, when it is bundled with the kernel source tree itself.
> > 
> > Why do people not realize this?
> > 
> > This is a real problem for distros, and for anyone who wants to have
> > multiple kernel versions on a single machine.  Jeff's patch fixes this.
> 
> once you move the firmware into its own package built from a separate
> source tree (and not the kernel) this is no longer a problem.

Agreed, but that's not what is going on here at all.

This is the firmware that is in the kernel source tree, that has been
moved to use request_firmware, and was originally tied tightly to the
kernel drivers themselves.

Now I can't install multiple kernel versions of a rpm package on my
machine at once.  Or even a single rpm package and then my own build,
without stomping on files owned by a different package.

That's unacceptable and can not work and is why Jeff made this patch.

thanks,

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-09-11 20:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-09 14:15 [PATCH] firmware: Allow release-specific firmware dir Jeff Mahoney
2008-09-10 22:35 ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-11 13:37   ` Greg KH
2008-09-10 23:01 ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-10 23:05   ` David Miller
2008-09-10 23:15     ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-10 23:24       ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-11  2:55         ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-10 23:24       ` David Miller
2008-09-10 23:36         ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-10 23:42           ` David Miller
2008-09-11  0:23             ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-11  0:39               ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-11  7:44         ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-09-11  8:13           ` Jeff Mahoney
2008-09-11 16:09             ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-09-11  8:29           ` Faidon Liambotis
2008-09-11 16:12             ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-09-11  8:58           ` Frans Pop
2008-09-11 16:16             ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-09-11  8:43       ` Frans Pop
2008-09-11  9:52         ` Frans Pop
2008-09-11 14:50           ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-11 15:24             ` Frans Pop
2008-09-11 15:31               ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-11 15:49                 ` Frans Pop
2008-09-11 15:57                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-11 16:32                     ` Frans Pop
2008-09-11 17:49                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-11 18:24                         ` Frans Pop
2008-09-11 16:01                   ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-11  4:00     ` David Newall
2008-09-11  6:35     ` Faidon Liambotis
2008-09-11  7:15       ` Jeff Mahoney
2008-09-11 13:38         ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-11 14:36           ` Jeff Mahoney
2008-09-11 16:29             ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-09-11 16:20       ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-09-11 11:29     ` Thierry Vignaud
2008-09-11 13:40       ` Greg KH
2008-09-11 16:39         ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-09-11 16:45           ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-11 20:18             ` Greg KH
2008-09-11 20:15           ` Greg KH [this message]
2008-09-11 20:38             ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-11 20:57               ` Greg KH
2008-09-11 21:15                 ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-11 22:07                   ` Greg KH
2008-09-11 22:25                     ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-12  8:39                       ` Joseph Fannin
2008-09-12 13:50                         ` Gene Heskett
2008-09-12 14:32                         ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-12 20:24                           ` Kai Henningsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-02-25  2:39 Jeff Mahoney
2011-02-25  5:01 ` Michael Tokarev
2011-02-25 15:03   ` Jeff Mahoney
2011-02-25 16:54     ` David Woodhouse
2011-03-01  0:48 ` Andrew Morton

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