From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756475AbYIKUUr (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:20:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752120AbYIKUUj (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:20:39 -0400 Received: from casper.infradead.org ([85.118.1.10]:39056 "EHLO casper.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751986AbYIKUUi (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:20:38 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:15:41 -0700 From: Greg KH To: Marcel Holtmann Cc: Thierry Vignaud , David Miller , dwmw2@infradead.org, jeffm@suse.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] firmware: Allow release-specific firmware dir Message-ID: <20080911201541.GA18518@kroah.com> References: <48C68507.6000609@suse.com> <1221087719.13621.50.camel@macbook.infradead.org> <20080910.160505.14060698.davem@davemloft.net> <20080911134042.GB3293@kroah.com> <1221151165.6309.55.camel@californication> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1221151165.6309.55.camel@californication> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 06:39:25PM +0200, Marcel Holtmann wrote: > Hi Greg, > > > > > > This isn't compatible with the version of udev that people actually have > > > > > installed, today. And it's also the _wrong_ thing to do. > > > > > > > > > > Firmware really _isn't_ version-specific. > > > > > > > > Tell that to every Debian and Debian derived system on the planet. > > > > > > > > To my knowledge, it is only fedora and possibly one or two other dists > > > > that put the firmware files in a unary /lib/firmware location, rather > > > > than a versioned /lib/firmware/$KERNELRELASE one. > > > > > > We (Mandriva Linux) do too. > > > Why other distro cannot package firmware separatly for all their kernel > > > flavors? > > > > > > Firmware are not version-specific. > > > > Yes it is, when it is bundled with the kernel source tree itself. > > > > Why do people not realize this? > > > > This is a real problem for distros, and for anyone who wants to have > > multiple kernel versions on a single machine. Jeff's patch fixes this. > > once you move the firmware into its own package built from a separate > source tree (and not the kernel) this is no longer a problem. Agreed, but that's not what is going on here at all. This is the firmware that is in the kernel source tree, that has been moved to use request_firmware, and was originally tied tightly to the kernel drivers themselves. Now I can't install multiple kernel versions of a rpm package on my machine at once. Or even a single rpm package and then my own build, without stomping on files owned by a different package. That's unacceptable and can not work and is why Jeff made this patch. thanks, greg k-h