From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754187AbYIUUiY (ORCPT ); Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:38:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753497AbYIUUfH (ORCPT ); Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:35:07 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155]:52847 "EHLO fg-out-1718.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753425AbYIUUfE (ORCPT ); Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:35:04 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=H+hd1N8VEC9MGBWZlnWC1MhZBoecVKuRh1GvlLiJlr9wcoZy/JMz92s6dKoc5CcYTm tKD0AxTdx3on3gJT6MH/Vt3KFhzO9vI9egkhh/57hVtV8YWOSl1ubxzZLovCmakoMfZZ cRmwj9BRunzXaDGKWfTOD0329mQHj0oSXD48E= Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:35:03 +0400 From: Cyrill Gorcunov To: Evgeniy Polyakov Cc: Johannes Berg , Arjan van de Ven , netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ipw2100-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, yi.zhu@intel.com, reinette.chatre@intel.com, jgarzik@pobox.com, linville@tuxdriver.com, davem@davemloft.net Subject: Re: Mark IPW2100 as BROKEN: Fatal interrupt. Scheduling firmware restart. Message-ID: <20080921203503.GL7736@localhost> References: <20080921172316.GA6306@2ka.mipt.ru> <20080921110422.1d010b96@infradead.org> <20080921182835.GA11473@2ka.mipt.ru> <20080921113513.16677c4e@infradead.org> <20080921190050.GA20484@2ka.mipt.ru> <1222024444.3023.53.camel@johannes.berg> <20080921193809.GA8735@2ka.mipt.ru> <20080921200518.GK7736@localhost> <20080921202656.GC25052@2ka.mipt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080921202656.GC25052@2ka.mipt.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org [Evgeniy Polyakov - Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:26:56AM +0400] | On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:05:18AM +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov (gorcunov@gmail.com) wrote: | > Since it's that serious maybe we should change | > | > IPW_DEBUG_INFO("%s: Fatal error value: 0x%08X\n", | > priv->net_dev->name, priv->fatal_error); | > | > to printk(KERN_WARN)? And here is why - as I see now we can't say what | > exactly is wrong - Evgeniy said he has a suspicious about firmware so | > this WARNS will be collected by Arjan thru kerneloops and we could not | > ask users to change debug level and repost problem - oops will have it | > by default - and if it really firmware problem - firmware engineers could | > find this _additional_ info usefull and resolve it (probably). | | The only reason for this change is to make a mark at the kerneloops. | I.e. users know, there is a bug. Developers know, there is a bug. | Everyone knows that there is a bug, but until it is at the special place | we look to each other just like there is no bug. | | Here are dumps for example: | http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=245 | | Bug existed even with 1.2 firmware and .11 kernel. | Intel, that's a great marketing slogan: stability everywhere! | | -- | Evgeniy Polyakov | >>From dump: > Sep 25 11:31:39 suino wlan0: TX timed out. Scheduling firmware restart. yes Evgeniy - all could know that but this register info could help firmware engineers to distinguish problems (without additional efforts like ask users to pass debug argument - kerneloops will have it by default) if there not only one exist. I mean I don't think anyone would reject additional info about problem ever :) - Cyrill -