From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754199AbYI3DVA (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:21:00 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752490AbYI3DTi (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:19:38 -0400 Received: from casper.infradead.org ([85.118.1.10]:60947 "EHLO casper.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752400AbYI3DTh (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:19:37 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:19:45 -0700 From: Arjan van de Ven To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Dave Airlie , Jiri Kosina , Linux Kernel Mailing List , jesse.brandeburg@intel.com Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.27-rc8 Message-ID: <20080929201945.26327311@infradead.org> In-Reply-To: References: <21d7e9970809291859s5bff81e3ue0f63402c2ad422d@mail.gmail.com> Organization: Intel X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.12; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by casper.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Dave Airlie wrote: > > > > If it is X related then its both a kernel + X server issue, the > > e1000e driver opens the barn door, the X server drives the horses > > through it. > > Are you sure? There was a mandriva report abou NVM corruption on an > e100 too (that one apparently just caused PXE failure, the networking > worked fine). > > So I wonder if it's _purely_ X-server-related, adn the reason people > blame 2.6.27-rc1 is just timing of some X update and then people just > look at the kernel beceuse the 'network card failed' looks so > kernel-related. > > The reason I mention that is right now it looks like the distros are > just running around disabling the e1000e module, or perhaps > downgrading it. Which may not even work! btw, we're also working on making some parts of the kernel more robust against certain types of bugs; for example the ioremap checks and sysfs resource checks. There's a set of checks and API changes we can do to make it less likely that drivers end up doing bad stuff; but that's obviously more for 2.6.28 than for .27 -- Arjan van de Ven Intel Open Source Technology Centre For development, discussion and tips for power savings, visit http://www.lesswatts.org