From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] ring-buffer: less locking and only disable preemption
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 10:40:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081004084002.GE27624@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081004060057.660306328@goodmis.org>
* Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> Ingo,
>
> These patches need to be put through the ringer. Could you add them to
> your ring-buffer branch, so we can test them out before putting them
> into your master branch.
hey, in fact your latest iteration already tested out so well on a wide
range of boxes that i've merged it all into tip/tracing/core already.
I'll reuse tip/tracing/ring-buffer for these latest 3 patches (merge it
up to tip/tracing/core and add these three patches) but it's a delta,
i.e. the whole ring-buffer approach is ready for prime time i think.
Hm, do we do deallocation of the buffers already when we switch tracers?
> The following patches bring the ring buffer closer to a lockless
> solution. They move the locking only to the actual moving the
> tail/write pointer from one page to the next. Interrupts are now
> enabled during most of the writes.
very nice direction!
> A lot of the locking protection is still within the ftrace
> infrastructure. The last patch takes some of that away.
>
> The function tracer cannot be reentrant just due to the nature that it
> traces everything, and can cause recursion issues.
Correct, and that's by far the yuckiest aspect of it. And there's
another aspect: NMIs. We've still got the tip/tracing/nmisafe angle with
these commits:
d979781: ftrace: mark lapic_wd_event() notrace
c2c27ba: ftrace: ignore functions that cannot be kprobe-ed
431e946: ftrace: do not trace NMI contexts
1eda930: x86, tracing, nmisafe: fix threadinfo_ -> TI_ rename fallout
84c2ca9: sched: sched_clock() improvement: use in_nmi()
0d84b78: x86 NMI-safe INT3 and Page Fault
a04464b: x86_64 page fault NMI-safe
b335389: Change avr32 active count bit
a581cbd: Change Alpha active count bit
eca0999: Stringify support commas
but i'm not yet fully convinced about the NMI angle, the practical cross
section to random lowlevel x86 code is wider than any sched_clock()
impact for example. We might be best off avoiding it: force-disable the
NMI watchdog when we trace?
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-04 8:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-04 6:00 [PATCH 0/3] ring-buffer: less locking and only disable preemption Steven Rostedt
2008-10-04 6:00 ` [PATCH 1/3] ring-buffer: move page indexes into page headers Steven Rostedt
2008-10-04 6:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] ring-buffer: make reentrant Steven Rostedt
2008-10-04 6:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] ftrace: make some tracers reentrant Steven Rostedt
2008-10-04 8:40 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-10-04 14:34 ` [PATCH 0/3] ring-buffer: less locking and only disable preemption Steven Rostedt
2008-10-04 14:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-04 17:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-04 22:27 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-04 23:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-10-06 17:10 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-05 10:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-06 13:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-04 16:33 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-04 17:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-10-06 17:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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