From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC patch 15/15] LTTng timestamp x86
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:25:16 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081017172515.GA9639@goodmis.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57C9024A16AD2D4C97DC78E552063EA3532D455F@orsmsx505.amr.corp.intel.com>
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 07:19:48PM -0700, Luck, Tony wrote:
> > This cache-line bouncing global clock is a best-effort to provide
> > correct event order in the trace on architectures with unsync tsc. It's
> > actually better than a global tracing buffer because it limits the
> > number of cache line transfers required to one per event.
>
> Even one line bouncing between cpus can be a performamce disaster.
> You'll probably hit a serious wall somewhere between 8 and 16
> cpus (ia64 has code that looks a lot like this in the gettimeofday()
> path because it does not synchronize cpu cycle counters ... some
> applications that are overly fond of timestamping internal
> events using gettimeofday() end up spending significant time
> doing so on large systems ... even with only a few thousands
> of calls per second).
>
I agree that one cache line bouncer is devastating to performance. But
as Mathieu said, it is better than a global tracer with lots of bouncing
going on. My logdev tracer (something similar to ftrace, but used only
for debugging) use to have a single buffer. By moving it to a per cpu
buffer and using an atomic counter to sort the events, the increase of
speed was a few magnitudes.
ftrace does not have a global counter, but on some boxes with out of
sync TSCs, it could not find race conditions. I had to pull in logdev,
which found the race right away, because of this atomic counter.
logdev adds a bit of perfomance degradation, but for debugging, I don't
care, and it has helped me quite a bit.
ftrace can help in debugging most of the time, but on some boxes with
wacky time stamps, it is useless to find race problems between CPUS. But
ftrace is for production, and can not afford the performance penalty of
a global counter.
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-17 17:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-16 23:27 [RFC patch 00/15] Tracer Timestamping Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 01/15] get_cycles() : kconfig HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 02/15] get_cycles() : x86 HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 03/15] get_cycles() : sparc64 HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 2:48 ` [RFC patch 03/15] get_cycles() : sparc64 HAVE_GET_CYCLES (update) Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 2:57 ` David Miller
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 04/15] get_cycles() : powerpc64 HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 0:26 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-10-17 0:43 ` [RFC patch 04/15] get_cycles() : powerpc64 HAVE_GET_CYCLES (update) Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 0:54 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-10-17 1:42 ` David Miller
2008-10-17 2:08 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 2:33 ` David Miller
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 05/15] get_cycles() : MIPS HAVE_GET_CYCLES_32 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-26 10:18 ` Ralf Baechle
2008-10-26 20:39 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 06/15] LTTng build Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 8:10 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-10-17 16:18 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 07/15] LTTng timestamp Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 8:15 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-10-17 16:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 08/15] LTTng - Timestamping Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 09/15] LTTng mips export hpt frequency Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 10/15] LTTng timestamp mips Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 11/15] LTTng timestamp powerpc Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 12/15] LTTng timestamp sparc64 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 13/15] LTTng timestamp sh Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 14/15] LTTng - TSC synchronicity test Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 15/15] LTTng timestamp x86 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 0:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-17 0:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-17 1:28 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 2:19 ` Luck, Tony
2008-10-17 17:25 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2008-10-17 18:08 ` Luck, Tony
2008-10-17 18:42 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 18:58 ` Luck, Tony
2008-10-17 20:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 23:52 ` Luck, Tony
2008-10-18 17:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-18 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-18 17:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-22 16:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-22 15:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-20 18:07 ` Luck, Tony
2008-10-22 16:51 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 19:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-10-20 20:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-20 21:38 ` john stultz
2008-10-20 22:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-20 22:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-20 22:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-21 18:10 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-23 15:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-23 16:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-23 21:54 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-10-20 23:47 ` john stultz
2008-10-22 17:05 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 19:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-17 7:59 ` [RFC patch 00/15] Tracer Timestamping Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-20 20:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-21 0:20 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-10-21 1:32 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-21 2:32 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-10-21 4:05 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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