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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>,
	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel@lists.sf.net, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: io resources and cached mappings (was: [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:10:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081020101011.GA30037@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081019175320.GA6442@elte.hu>


* Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:

> very nice!
> 
> I think we need a somewhat different abstraction though.
> 
> Firstly, regarding drivers/gpu/drm/i915/io_reserve.h, that needs to 
> move to generic code.
> 
> Secondly, wouldnt the right abstraction be to attach this 
> functionality to 'struct resource' ? [or at least create a second 
> struct that embedds struct resource]
> 
> this abstraction is definitely not a PCI thing and not a 
> detached-from-everything thing, it's an IO resource thing. We could 
> make it a property of struct resource:
> 
> struct resource {
>         resource_size_t start;
>         resource_size_t end;
>         const char *name;
>         unsigned long flags;
>         struct resource *parent, *sibling, *child;
> +       void *mapping;
> };
> 
> The APIs would be:
> 
>   int   io_resource_init_mapping(struct resource *res);
>  void   io_resource_free_mapping(struct resource *res);
>  void * io_resource_map(struct resource *res, pfn_t pfn, unsigned long offset);
>  void   io_resource_unmap(struct resource *res, void *kaddr);
> 
> Note how simple and consistent it all gets: IO resources already know 
> their physical location and their size limits. Being able to cache an 
> ioremap in a mapping [and being able to use atomic kmaps on 32-bit] is 
> a relatively simple and natural extension to the concept.
> 
> i think that would be quite acceptable - and the APIs could just 
> transparently work on it. This would also allow the PCI code to 
> automatically unmap any cached mappings from resources, when the 
> driver deinitializes.
> 
> Linus, Jesse, what do you think?

the downsize would be that we'd attach a runtime property to the 
IORESOURCE_MEM resource tree - which is a fairly static thing right now, 
after the point where we finalize the resource tree. (modulo 
device/bridge hotplug variances)

Another downside is that we might not want to map the whole thing. I.e. 
the structure of the IO memory space we want to map by drivers might be 
different from how it looks like in the resource tree.

the concept of introducing resource->mapping does not feel _that_ wrong 
though and has a couple of upsides: it could act as a natural mapping 
type serializer for example and drivers wouldnt have to explicitly 
manage ioremap results - they could just use the resource descriptor 
directly and "read" and "write" to/from it. readl/writel could be 
extended to operate on the resource descriptor transparently, getting 
rid of a source of resource mismatches and overmapping, etc. etc. We 
could even safety check IO space accesses this way.

and we'd get rid of the complication that your APIs introduced, the need 
to introduce a separate io_mapping type, etc.

Dunno, i might be missing some obvious downside why this wasnt done like 
that until now.

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-10-20 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-17 21:29 [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1 Dave Airlie
2008-10-17 22:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-18  2:10   ` Eric Anholt
2008-10-18  2:47     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-18  3:49       ` Keith Packard
2008-10-18  6:44         ` Corbin Simpson
2008-10-18  7:49       ` Eric Anholt
2008-10-19 17:52         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-20  4:17           ` Steven J Newbury
2008-10-20 16:31         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-20 20:04     ` Jesse Barnes
2008-10-18  9:11   ` Dave Airlie
2008-10-18  1:37 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-18 19:11   ` Keith Packard
2008-10-18 19:31     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-18 20:07       ` Thomas Hellström
2008-10-18 20:20       ` Keith Packard
2008-10-18 20:37       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-18 21:51         ` Keith Packard
2008-10-18 22:32           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-18 22:47             ` Jon Smirl
2008-10-18 22:53               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-19  0:38             ` Keith Packard
2008-10-19  1:06               ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-19  1:15                 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-20 10:01               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-19  4:14             ` Keith Packard
2008-10-19  6:41               ` Keith Packard
2008-10-19 17:53                 ` io resources and cached mappings (was: [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1) Ingo Molnar
2008-10-19 18:00                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-19 19:07                   ` Eric Anholt
2008-10-20 11:55                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-20 12:20                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-19 21:04                   ` Keith Packard
2008-10-20 11:58                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-20 15:49                       ` Keith Packard
2008-10-22  9:36                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-23  7:14                           ` Keith Packard
2008-10-23  7:14                             ` [PATCH] Add io-mapping functions to dynamically map large device apertures Keith Packard
2008-10-23  7:14                               ` [PATCH] [drm/i915] Use io-mapping interfaces instead of a variety of mapping kludges Keith Packard
2008-10-24  4:49                               ` [PATCH] Add io-mapping functions to dynamically map large device apertures Randy Dunlap
2008-10-24  6:26                                 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-23  8:05                             ` io resources and cached mappings (was: [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1) Ingo Molnar
2008-10-23 15:39                               ` Keith Packard
2008-11-03  7:00                                 ` Dave Airlie
2008-11-03 10:48                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-03 16:36                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-03 16:53                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-03 17:29                                       ` [git pull] IO mappings, #2 Ingo Molnar
2008-11-04 22:36                                         ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-11-05  9:01                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-23 20:22                           ` Adding kmap_atomic_prot_pfn (was: [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1) Keith Packard
2008-10-23 20:38                             ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-23 21:03                               ` Keith Packard
2008-10-23 21:24                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-24  1:50                                 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-24  2:48                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-24  3:24                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-10-24  5:37                                       ` Keith Packard
2008-10-24 14:53                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-24 15:45                                           ` Keith Packard
2008-10-24  4:29                                     ` Keith Packard
2008-10-24  6:22                                     ` Keith Packard
2008-10-24  7:33                                       ` Adding kmap_atomic_prot_pfn Thomas Hellström
2008-10-24  8:38                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-24  9:19                                           ` Thomas Hellström
2008-10-24  9:32                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-24 11:04                                               ` Thomas Hellström
2008-10-24 15:48                                         ` Keith Packard
2008-10-24 10:18                                           ` Thomas Hellström
2008-10-24  9:14                                     ` Adding kmap_atomic_prot_pfn (was: [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1) Ingo Molnar
2008-10-24  3:21                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-10-20 10:10                   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-10-19  4:28             ` [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1 Yinghai Lu
2008-10-19  3:14       ` Nick Piggin

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