From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] pending scheduler updates
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:42:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081022124240.GD25536@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1224679082.12294.15.camel@marge.simson.net>
* Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de> wrote:
> > > With that patch, pgsql+oltp scales perfectly.
> >
> > hm, tempting.
>
> I disagree. Postgres's scaling problem is trivially corrected by
> twiddling knobs (or whatnot). [...]
okay, then we need to document it a bit more: what knobs need twiddling
to make it scale perfectly?
> [...] With that patch, you can't twiddle mysql throughput back, or
> disk intensive loads for that matter. You can tweak the preempt
> number, but it has nothing to do with lag, so anybody can preempt
> anybody else as you turn the knob toward zero. Chaos.
okay, convinced.
> > Have you tried to hack/fix pgsql to do proper wakeups?
>
> No, I tried to build without spinlocks to verify, but build croaked.
> Never went back to slogging through the code.
if it falls back to IPC semaphores that's a bad trade from a performance
POV. The best would be if it used proper futexes (i.e. pthread_mutex()
and friends) not some home-grown user-space spinlock thing.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-22 12:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-17 17:27 [PATCH 0/4] pending scheduler updates Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-17 17:27 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched: optimize group load balancer Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-17 17:27 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched: fair scheduler should not resched rt tasks Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-17 17:27 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched: revert back to per-rq vruntime Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-17 17:27 ` [PATCH 4/4] sched: fix wakeup preemption Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-20 21:57 ` Chris Friesen
2008-10-20 12:05 ` [PATCH 0/4] pending scheduler updates Ingo Molnar
2008-10-21 17:35 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2008-10-22 9:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-22 10:03 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-22 10:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-22 12:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-22 12:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-22 12:42 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-10-22 13:05 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-22 17:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-22 17:56 ` Mike Galbraith
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