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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: "Török Edwin" <edwintorok@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	sandmann@daimi.au.dk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] Implement semaphore latency tracer
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:28:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081022152842.GI23060@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48F259A7.2030800@gmail.com>


* Török Edwin <edwintorok@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2008-10-12 22:13, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 16:12 +0300, Török Edwin wrote:
> >   
> >> Each time a down_read or down_write fails, a unique latency id is generated.
> >> Later when someone releases the semaphore, it is blamed for the latency of all
> >> tasks on the wait_list of the semaphore.
> >> If you would group the output from latency_trace by the latency_id you get all those
> >> who were contending on a lock, and the tasks that were holding the lock.
> >> An entry in latency_trace has the format:
> >> (latency_id) [semaphore_id] read|write
> >> stacktrace <= stacktrace
> >>     
> >
> > What can this tracer do that latencytop cannot already do?
> 
> Latencytop can show latencies in down_read or down_write (and is very
> useful at doing that), but it cannot show who else was holding the
> semaphore,
> i.e. the true cause of the latency.
> 
> Consider:
> process A holds a semaphore for reading, process B tries to acquire it
> for writing and fails. Latencytop shows the latency in process B, but
> doesn't
> show anything about process A.
> 
> The semlat tracer is doing something more similar to lockstat, but
> doesn't need lockdep, and it adds tracepoints on the slowpath only (lock
> failed, wakeup).

hm, but the most common synchronization primitive are mutexes - and 
those are not covered by your patchset.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-22 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-12 13:11 [PATCH 0/4] ftrace: add userspace stacktrace support and semaphore-latency tracer Török Edwin
2008-10-12 13:12 ` Török Edwin
2008-10-12 13:12 ` [PATCH 1/4] Add support for userspace stacktraces in tracing/iter_ctrl Török Edwin
2008-10-12 13:31   ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-10-12 13:53     ` Török Edwin
2008-10-13  8:02       ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-10-26  4:05   ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-10-26  7:03     ` Török Edwin
2008-10-26 15:06       ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-10-26 13:15     ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-10-26 13:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-26 13:38         ` Török Edwin
2008-10-26 13:49           ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-10-27 16:03   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-27 16:16     ` Török Edwin
2008-10-12 13:12 ` [PATCH 2/4] Identify which executable object the userspace address belongs to Török Edwin
2008-10-12 13:12 ` [PATCH 3/4] add tracepoints in rwsem Török Edwin
2008-10-12 13:12 ` [PATCH 4/4] Implement semaphore latency tracer Török Edwin
2008-10-12 19:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-12 20:10     ` Török Edwin
2008-10-22 15:28       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-10-22 15:41         ` Török Edwin
2008-10-22 15:48           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-22 17:22             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-22 17:25               ` Török Edwin
2008-10-12 18:25 ` [PATCH 0/4] ftrace: add userspace stacktrace support and semaphore-latency tracer Steven Rostedt

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