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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: adobriyan@gmail.com, kenchen@google.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] add /proc/pid/stack to dump task's stack trace
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:00:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081111100050.GA31766@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081110155410.be7552e3.akpm@linux-foundation.org>


* Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:29:02 +0100
> Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> 
> > > I guess the 0400 mode on that file will suffice...
> > 
> > correct, 0400 is used already in the present patch:
> > 
> >  phoenix:~> cat /proc/1/stack
> >  cat: /proc/1/stack: Permission denied
> > 
> > but that is _not_ enough, it should be narrowed even more, to the 
> > boundaries that i pointed out in my first review feedback mail, and 
> > which is not implemented yet:
> > 
> >  1) only root should be allowed to do this - i.e. file needs to be 
> >     root-owned.
> > 
> >  2) there also needs to be a .config entry for folks to be able to
> >     turn it off altogether - just like folks can turn off sysrq-t 
> >     dumping via the .config.
> 
> Doing the above is desirable for another reason: given our rather 
> erratic history with the stack backtracer, this /proc file is 
> possibly a convenient way of oopsing the kernel, sending of off into 
> la-la-land, etc.

the stack tracer is rock-solid on x86 since Arjan started cleaning up 
the backtracing mess which we indeed had in x86 for years:

- adding frame-pointer support to 64-bit to improve the
  quality of stack-traces

- eliminating the broken and fragile dwarf2-unwinder

- expanding the use of the generic stacktrace infrastructure to
  lockdep, ftrace and other areas of code

if you know about any remaining fragility please holler, we havent had 
a backtracer induced oops for a long time :-)

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-11 10:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-06 19:01 [patch] add /proc/pid/stack to dump task's stack trace Ken Chen
2008-11-06 19:51 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-11-06 20:12   ` Ken Chen
2008-11-06 20:35     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-07  0:30       ` Ken Chen
2008-11-07  0:48         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-11-07  7:41           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-07  7:59             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-07  8:20               ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-11-07  8:32                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-07  8:49                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-11-07  8:53                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-07  9:03                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-07  9:16                         ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07  9:29                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-07 17:51                             ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-11-08 12:06                               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-10 23:54                             ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-11 10:00                               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-11-11 12:25                         ` Marcin Slusarz
2008-11-11 12:33                           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-11-11 13:20                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-11 14:03                             ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-11-11 14:19                               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-07 18:38                   ` Ken Chen
2008-11-07 18:46                     ` Paul Menage
2008-11-08 12:10                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-09 18:08                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-11-10  8:41                         ` Ingo Molnar

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