From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Philipp Kohlbecher <xt28@gmx.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: alternative identifier for Phoenix BIOS
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:06:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081118150659.GF30358@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081116111447.23fbfe7e@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
* Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:55:20 -0800
> "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
>
> > Philipp Kohlbecher wrote:
> > > My laptop (a Samsung X20) contains a Phoenix BIOS and would benefit from
> > > patch 1e22436eba84edfec9c25e5a25d09062c4f91ca9 (x86: reserve low 64K on
> > > AMI and Phoenix BIOS boxen).
> > >
> > > However, according to /sys/class/dmi/id/bios_vendor, the BIOS identifies
> > > its vendor as "Phoenix Technologies LTD" (sans the comma).
> >
> > Given that AMI and Phoenix combined is something like 80% of the BIOS
> > market, if not more, it might simply be easier to make it unconditional,
> > or make it a whitelist instead.
>
> Far more useful would be to make people aware of the problem. If the
> BIOS is scribbling in the low 64K of RAM not just BIOS areas, and
> doing so outside of ACPI marked areas they need to fix the BIOS
> ASAP. If they leave their BIOSes randomly scribbling in operating
> system memory areas then as with previous (hardware related) cases
> of vendors knowingly shipping corrupting equipment they'll be
> building up a huge class action legal liability.
>
> As such making sure the vendor knows in a way they cannot deny is a
> very useful activity.
CONFIG_X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION=y will do that, it prints:
Corrupted low memory at 0x1000 (4096 phys) = 0x1234
Memory corruption detected in low memory
< stack trace >
if enough distros turn it on (at least in their debug kernels) it
creates the right kind of user pressure.
This debug feature to catch BIOS-generated low-memory corruption is
already upstream.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-18 15:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-15 15:42 [PATCH] x86: alternative identifier for Phoenix BIOS Philipp Kohlbecher
2008-11-16 1:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-16 7:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-16 11:11 ` [PATCH v2] x86: more general " Philipp Kohlbecher
2008-11-18 15:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-16 11:14 ` [PATCH] x86: alternative " Alan Cox
2008-11-18 15:06 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-11-16 16:51 ` Pavel Machek
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