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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap.net>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	john@johnmccutchan.com, arnd@arndb.de, mtk.manpages@gmail.com,
	hch@lst.de, rlove@rlove.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, davidn@davidnewall.com,
	Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [take2] Inotify: nested attributes support.
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:43:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081204084309.GA2072@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081126082936.GB17525@ioremap.net>

On Wed 2008-11-26 11:29:36, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:15:38AM -0800, Andrew Morton (akpm@linux-foundation.org) wrote:
> > OK, so we have a super-duper framework which will allow us to add pids
> > (and other things) to inotify messages.
> 
> Yup :)
> 
> > This still doesn't provide a reason for anyone to be interested in the
> > code!  Why do we want pids in inotify messages?
>  
> I actually cared only about myself :)
> I started the thread and implementation, because my application has to
> differentiate IO made by itself and any IO made by system (another
> users, crons, whatever else), inotify did not give me that info, so I
> extended it. As of others: PID/TID may be used by watching applications
> to reduce own load to not process own IO, things like beagle may show
> who actually made changes into the file.

Actually, does the kernel even know who initiated the i/o?

Take two threads, both mapping /etc/something , both of them writing
through the mmap. Kernel sees dirty pages so it writes them back, but
which thread is repsonsible for the write?
 
> > And how does this work give that pids are (no longer) system-wide unique?
> 
> It gets pids from the caller's task_struct (via current), so its data is
> as unique as process calling getpid() or syscall(__NR_gettid).

What happens on mmap()?
									Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-12-04  8:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-25 19:42 [take2] Inotify: nested attributes support Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-25 19:44 ` [take2] Inotify: nested attributes test application Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-26  0:24 ` [take2] Inotify: nested attributes support Andrew Morton
2008-11-26  7:42   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-26  8:15     ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-26  8:29       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-26  8:38         ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-26  8:46           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-26 12:47         ` David Newall
2008-11-26 12:51           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-26 13:03             ` David Newall
2008-11-26 13:15               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-04  8:43         ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2008-12-04  9:09           ` Evgeniy Polyakov

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