public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Bastian Blank <bastian@waldi.eu.org>,
	oleg@redhat.com, ebiederm@xmission.com, roland@redhat.com,
	containers@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	xemul@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/5] Protect cinit from fatal signals
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:58:30 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081204185830.GC23906@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081204125213.GB31061@wavehammer.waldi.eu.org>

Bastian Blank [bastian@waldi.eu.org] wrote:
| > Secondly, a poorly written container-inits can take the entire container down,
| > So we expect that container-inits to handle/ignore all signals rather than
| > SIG_DFL them. Current global inits do that today and container-inits should
| > too. It does not look like an unreasonable requirement.
| 
| So you intend to workaround tools which are used as container-init but
| does not qualify for this work. Why?

Sorry, but I don't understand the "does not qualify for this work" part.
Can you please rephrase ?

| 
| > So the basic requirements are:
| > 
| > 	- container-init receives/processes all signals from ancestor namespace.
| > 	- container-init ignores fatal signals from own namespace.
| > 
| > We are simplifying the first to say that:
| > 
| > 	- parent-ns must have a way to terminate container-init
| > 	- cinit will ignore SIG_DFL signals that may terminate cinit even if
| > 	  they come from parent ns
| 
| This is no simplification. This are more constraints.

Yes cinit ignoring SIG_DFL exit signals from parent-ns is a constraint.
So if we run say sshd as container-init, we can't use SIGINT to
terminate it, but need SIGKILL 

The question is whether this constraint makes any serious/real cinits
unusable ?

The behavior at present is that cinits can be terminated from within
and cinits cannot do anything in user-space. With this incremental
step at least user space has an option of ignoring such signals.

Sukadev

  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-04 18:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-26  3:42 [RFC][PATCH 0/5] Container init signal semantics Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-11-26  3:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] pid: Implement ns_of_pid Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-11-27  1:19   ` Bastian Blank
2008-12-01 20:24     ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-02 11:58       ` Bastian Blank
2008-12-02 22:12         ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-03  0:34         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-11-26  3:45 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] pid: Generalize task_active_pid_ns Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-11-27  1:17   ` Bastian Blank
2008-11-27 21:19     ` Greg Kurz
2008-12-01 21:15       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-02 11:57         ` Bastian Blank
2008-12-03  7:41           ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-04 12:58             ` Bastian Blank
2008-11-27 13:09   ` Nadia Derbey
2008-12-01 20:38     ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-11-26  3:46 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] Determine if sender is from ancestor ns Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-11-27  1:01   ` Bastian Blank
2008-12-01 20:15     ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-02 11:48       ` Bastian Blank
2008-12-02 19:59         ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-04 12:45           ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] Determine if sender is from ancestor ns+ Bastian Blank
2008-12-02  3:07   ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] Determine if sender is from ancestor ns Roland McGrath
2008-12-04  1:06   ` Roland McGrath
2008-12-09  3:22     ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-11-26  3:46 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/5] Protect cinit from fatal signals Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-11-27  1:07   ` Bastian Blank
2008-12-01 20:21     ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-02 12:06       ` Bastian Blank
2008-12-02 20:51         ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-04 12:52           ` Bastian Blank
2008-12-04 18:58             ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu [this message]
2008-11-26  3:46 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/5] Clear si_pid for signal from ancestor ns Sukadev Bhattiprolu

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20081204185830.GC23906@us.ibm.com \
    --to=sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
    --cc=bastian@waldi.eu.org \
    --cc=containers@lists.osdl.org \
    --cc=ebiederm@xmission.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=oleg@redhat.com \
    --cc=roland@redhat.com \
    --cc=xemul@openvz.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox