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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Dhaval Giani <dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] user namespaces: require cap_set{ug}id for CLONE_NEWUSER
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:45:52 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081205164552.GA16788@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1ej0mr3o9.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org>

Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@xmission.com):
> "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com> writes:
> 
> > While ideally CLONE_NEWUSER will eventually require no
> > privilege, the required permission checks are currently
> > not there.  As a result, CLONE_NEWUSER has the same effect
> > as a setuid(0)+setgroups(1,"0").  While we already require
> > CAP_SYS_ADMIN, requiring CAP_SETUID and CAP_SETGID seems
> > appropriate.
> 
> This looks reasonable.  For the short term we will need a greater
> set of caps to be able to do all of the interesting things.

Could you ack the patch?  Stephen explicitly doesn't want patches
in linux-next which haven't been acked, and security-next feeds
into linux-next, so I don't want to ask James to take the patch
without an ack :)

> Personally the user namespace only becomes interesting when we
> start to be able to move in the other direction and remove the
> set of capabilities requires to create it.
> 
> Eric

Agreed.  Now the thing is I don't think we need full userns
support to get there.  We just need the targeted capabilities
and the basic dummy fs support - that is, init_user_ns owns
all vfsmounts, and anyone not in init_user_ns only gets
user other access to files under those mounts.

Of course complete support for targeted caps will in itself
be a huge effort :)

So my roadmap is: next address the per-user keyring, then
the targeted caps.

-serge

  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-05 16:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-03 19:17 [PATCH 1/2] user namespaces: let user_ns be cloned with fairsched Serge E. Hallyn
2008-12-03 19:17 ` [PATCH 2/2] user namespaces: require cap_set{ug}id for CLONE_NEWUSER Serge E. Hallyn
2008-12-05 16:24   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-12-05 16:45     ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2008-12-05 17:17       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-12-05 17:14   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-12-07 22:47     ` James Morris
2008-12-05 10:07 ` [PATCH 1/2] user namespaces: let user_ns be cloned with fairsched James Morris
2008-12-05 14:44   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-12-07 22:46 ` James Morris
2008-12-08 16:04   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-12-08 21:15     ` James Morris

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