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From: Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: andi@firstfloor.org, mingo@elte.hu, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl,
	paulus@samba.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, eranian@googlemail.com,
	dada1@cosmosbay.com, robert.richter@amd.com, arjan@infradead.org,
	hpa@zytor.com, rostedt@goodmis.org
Subject: Re: [patch 0/3] [Announcement] Performance Counters for Linux
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:48:24 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081210034824.GA27217@linux-sh.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081205.120814.51226316.davem@davemloft.net>

On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 12:08:14PM -0800, David Miller wrote:
> From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:39:43 +0100
> 
> > Given these are more obscure features, but not being able to fit
> > them easily into your model from the start isn't a very promising sign
> > for the long term extensibility of the design.
> 
> Another thing I'm interested in is if this new stuff will work with
> performance counters that lack an overflow interrupt.
> 
> We have several chips that are like this, and perfmon supported that
> on the kernel side, and also provided overflow emulation for such
> hardware in userspace (where such complexity belongs).

There doesn't seem to have been any reply to this point unfortunately,
and it is something I am also wondering about.

The sh perf counters were not designed with overflowing in mind, they are
split in to a pair of 48-bit or 64-bit counters that simply keep running.
Any write simply clears the value and the counter starts over. They are
simply counters only, and generate no events whatsoever.

Oprofile has been a pretty bad fit for them, and while I'm slightly more
optimistic about perfmon, I'm rather less enthusiastic about yet another
peformance counter implementation that I am unable to make any use of. 

  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-10  3:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-04 23:44 [patch 0/3] [Announcement] Performance Counters for Linux Thomas Gleixner
2008-12-04 23:44 ` [patch 1/3] performance counters: core code Thomas Gleixner
2008-12-05 10:55   ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-05 11:20     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-04 23:44 ` [patch 2/3] performance counters: documentation Thomas Gleixner
2008-12-05  0:33   ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-05  0:37     ` David Miller
2008-12-05  2:50       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-12-05  3:26         ` David Miller
2008-12-05  2:33     ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-04 23:45 ` [patch 3/3] performance counters: x86 support Thomas Gleixner
2008-12-05  0:22 ` [patch 0/3] [Announcement] Performance Counters for Linux Paul Mackerras
2008-12-05  6:31   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-05  7:02     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-12-05  7:52       ` David Miller
2008-12-05  7:03     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-05  7:16       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-05  7:57         ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-05  8:03           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-05  8:07             ` David Miller
2008-12-05  8:11               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-05  8:17                 ` David Miller
2008-12-05  8:24                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-05  8:27                     ` David Miller
2008-12-05  8:42                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-05  8:49                         ` David Miller
2008-12-05 12:13                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-05 12:39                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-05 20:08                           ` David Miller
2008-12-10  3:48                             ` Paul Mundt [this message]
2008-12-10  4:42                               ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-10  8:43                               ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-12-10 10:28                               ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-10 10:23                                 ` Paul Mundt
2008-12-10 11:03                                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-05 15:00               ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-12-05  9:16             ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-05  7:57       ` David Miller
2008-12-05  8:18         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-05  8:20           ` David Miller
2008-12-05  7:54     ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-05  8:08       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-05  8:15         ` David Miller
2008-12-05 13:25           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-05  9:10         ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-05 12:07           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-06  0:05             ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-06  1:23               ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-12-06 12:34               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-07  5:15                 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-08  7:18                   ` stephane eranian
2008-12-08 11:11                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-08 11:58                       ` David Miller
2008-12-09  0:21                       ` stephane eranian
2008-12-05  0:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-12-05  0:43   ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-05  1:12 ` David Miller
2008-12-05  6:10   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-05  7:50     ` David Miller
2008-12-05  9:34     ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-05 10:41       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-05 10:05     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-05  3:30 ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-06  2:36 ` stephane eranian
2008-12-08  2:12   ` [perfmon2] [patch 0/3] [Announcement] Performance Counters forLinux Dan Terpstra
2008-12-10 16:27   ` [perfmon2] [patch 0/3] [Announcement] Performance Counters for Linux Rob Fowler
2008-12-10 17:11     ` Andi Kleen
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2008-12-05 21:24 Corey Ashford

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