From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753068AbYLQWmq (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:42:46 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752178AbYLQWme (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:42:34 -0500 Received: from kroah.org ([198.145.64.141]:36118 "EHLO coco.kroah.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751971AbYLQWmd (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:42:33 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:53:20 -0800 From: Greg KH To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" Cc: Ben Dooks , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: driver probe error reporting Message-ID: <20081217215320.GA28033@kroah.com> References: <20081215231502.GC12431@fluff.org.uk> <200812171344.52872.rjw@sisk.pl> <20081217182444.GA26359@kroah.com> <200812172244.35042.rjw@sisk.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200812172244.35042.rjw@sisk.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:44:34PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Wednesday, 17 of December 2008, Greg KH wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 01:44:52PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > On Wednesday, 17 of December 2008, Greg KH wrote: > > > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:15:02PM +0000, Ben Dooks wrote: > > > > > This runs on from the discussion in [1] on how drivers (especially > > > > > one using a variant of the device driver framework) report errors > > > > > on probe. There are two main classes of errors, the type which happen > > > > > at probe time (device not responding, not enough memory, etc) and > > > > > errors that are due to configuration such as missing device configuration > > > > > data. > > > > > > > > > > It has been suggested that using dev_err() to report any configuration > > > > > data error is a bloat of code as a properly debugged kernel should never > > > > > find itself in this state. > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunatley the only diagnostic dev_xxx() macro is dev_dbg() which is > > > > > only available if the the driver code itself defines DEBUG. I would think > > > > > it would be better to have a macro that can be turned on/off by a kernel > > > > > configuration for when debugging which turns on the messages that are > > > > > important to developers creating new machine/arch support but disabled > > > > > for shipping kernels. > > > > > > > > Not anymore, dev_dbg() can be dynamically switched on and off at runtime > > > > in 2.6.28. > > > > > > IMO, there's a problem with that, because it turns on _all_ of the debug info > > > from the entire kernel, which is _never_ necessary. > > > > No, it is turned on and off on a per-module basis, not for the whole > > kernel (although that is possible if you so desire.) > > > > So this should not be an issue. > > Well, recently I've been debugging suspend-resume quite a lot and I had to > compile it out. I use verbose PM debugging for that, which is based on > dev_dbg(), and it is very inconvenient with dynamic printk. I'm confused, if you enable dynamic printk, it uses dev_dbg(). And then you can turn it on or off on a per-module basis. What are you suggesting we do instead? thanks, greg k-h