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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Al@oss.sgi.com, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	bfields@fieldses.org, xfs-masters@oss.sgi.com,
	Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [xfs-masters] RFC: Fix f_flags races without the BKL
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:48:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081230144836.GA31439@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081230133737.GM496@one.firstfloor.org>

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 02:37:37PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> That's not clear. Mutexes can be much slower than a spinlock
> like BKL in some situations, mostly because they schedule more and
> have generally more overhead.
> 
> As long as you don't have another BKL user contending the BKL
> is likely faster than the mutex.

Note that I did not say faster, but better.  The subtle races the
BKL semantics introduce are nasty.

That beeing said I took another look at the patch and it seems like
most places are indeed just very quick flags setting / clearing
with the only sleeping possible inside ->fasync.  So having a
file_flags_lock spinlock, and another sleeping mutex protecting
->fasync might be another options.

Jon, do you remember what we actually need to protect in -fasync?
any reason not to take the locking inside the method?  Together with
->lock and the old ->ioctl it's pretty special in fops as none of
the others have any locking at all.

> 
> -Andi
> 
> -- 
> ak@linux.intel.com
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---end quoted text---

  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-30 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-29 11:13 RFC: Fix f_flags races without the BKL Jonathan Corbet
2008-12-29 11:57 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-12-30 12:49   ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-12-29 12:41 ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-12-29 15:27   ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-30 12:59     ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-12-30 13:04       ` [xfs-masters] " Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-30 13:37         ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-30 14:48           ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2008-12-31  9:52             ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-12-30 14:55       ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-08 23:28   ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-01-09 10:08     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-09 13:18       ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-01-09 14:03         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-09 15:09         ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-29 12:50 ` [xfs-masters] " Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-29 15:15   ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-02 18:29     ` Al Viro
2009-01-02 18:27   ` Al Viro
2009-01-02 18:42 ` Al Viro
2009-01-02 19:09   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-02 19:54     ` Al Viro
2009-01-03 16:45       ` Oleg Nesterov

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