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From: Yan Li <elliot.li.tech@gmail.com>
To: Tino Keitel <tino.keitel@gmx.de>, Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: gregkh@suse.de, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Enable CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND by default or some mobile HD can't be unplugged safely
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 22:00:23 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090102140023.GC4833@thyme.bj.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090102095643.GB17103@x61>

On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 10:56:43AM +0100, Tino Keitel wrote:
> With a WD My Passport drive (2,5"), I need to use sg_start --stop --pc=3
> to stop the disk before unplugging it. Maybe this works with your
> drive, too.  This is also required by some Firewire hard disks.  Maybe
> the eject command should be extended to use this method, as it is used
> also by HAL to eject hotplug devices.

Hum...  I grepped my hal and hal-info packages but haven't found any
scripts using `sg_*'. I'm using hal package 0.5.11-6 from Debian
testing.

Now I know 3 methods supposed can be used to shut the device:
1. (Alan Stern said Windows use this) cut the USB port's power
2. send STOP SCSI command to stop it
3. put it into suspend mode

For the 1st method I have no much experience with Windows so I can't
verify. But now I doubt it. Since there are many early USB devices
that still show light on after you "safely remove" it from Windows. I
guess the power is still supplied but the device is send a command to
be shutdown or suspended.

For the 2nd and 3rd methods, I don't know which one is better, hope
some experts can give advice.

Whatever, I think the suspend mode is a standard USB design and the
kernel should support it by default so we should enable
CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND.

-- 
Li, Yan

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-02 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-01 16:03 Enable CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND by default or some mobile HD can't be unplugged safely Yan Li
2009-01-01 16:07 ` [PATCH] enable CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND by default Yan Li
2009-01-01 17:29 ` Enable CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND by default or some mobile HD can't be unplugged safely Alan Stern
2009-01-02 13:23   ` Yan Li
2009-01-01 17:32 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2009-01-01 17:45   ` Alan Stern
2009-01-02 13:37   ` Yan Li
2009-01-02 13:46     ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2009-01-01 19:09 ` Robert Hancock
2009-01-02  9:56 ` Tino Keitel
2009-01-02 14:00   ` Yan Li [this message]
2009-01-02 14:08     ` Tino Keitel
2009-01-02 14:28     ` Yan Li
2009-01-02 16:04     ` Alan Stern
2009-01-03  2:33       ` Yan Li
2009-01-02 15:50   ` Mark Lord
2009-01-02 15:51     ` Mark Lord
2009-01-02 18:15       ` Tino Keitel
2009-01-03  2:24         ` Yan Li

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