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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
To: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/4] sunrpc: Use utsnamespaces
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:01:32 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090107000132.GA22261@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FB1BAB9F-25D4-449F-A66D-D1CC705F3741@oracle.com>

Quoting Chuck Lever (chuck.lever@oracle.com):
> On Jan 6, 2009, at Jan 6, 2009, 3:02 PM, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
>> Quoting Matt Helsley (matthltc@us.ibm.com):
>>> We can often specify the UTS namespace to use when starting an RPC  
>>> client.
>>> However sometimes no UTS namespace is available (specifically during 
>>> system
>>> shutdown as the last NFS mount in a container is unmounted) so fall
>>> back to the initial UTS namespace.
>>
>> So what happens if we take this patch and do nothing else?
>
> I thought the point of this was to prevent incorrect container nodenames 
> from leaking onto the network.

But define incorrect.  If container B does an nfs mount, container c
is launched with a tree in that mount, container B dies, and container C
umounts it.  Should the umount belong to container B (for having
mounted it), container C (for having umount it), or the init_utsname
(for being the physical host/kernel)?

I get the feeling that consensus on this thread is that init_utsname
is actually the best choice, but OTOH if I have 3 containers on my
host, for apache, mysql, and postfix servers, and each is doing
nfs mounts from a physically remote machine, maybe I care about
having them report separate nodenames?

(that's a question, I really don't know...)

-serge

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-07  0:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-06  1:13 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] utsns: RPC/NFS bug rework Matt Helsley
2009-01-06  1:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] Remove useless utsname.h includes Matt Helsley
2009-01-06  1:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/4] sunrpc: Use utsnamespaces Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 20:02   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-01-06 20:20     ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-06 21:53       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-01-06 23:35         ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 22:43       ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 20:44     ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-06 21:58       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-01-06 22:42         ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07  0:08           ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-07  0:20             ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07  0:43               ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-07  1:10                 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07  0:20             ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-07  0:23               ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07  3:44                 ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 23:04         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-06 23:15           ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-06 23:32             ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-06 23:35               ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-06 23:48                 ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 23:51                 ` Chuck Lever
2009-01-06 23:53                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-07  0:07                   ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-07  0:55                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-07  0:20                   ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07  0:20                 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07  0:26                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-07  0:38                     ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07  1:44                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-07  1:50                         ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07  2:37                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-06 23:30         ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 23:18       ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 23:43         ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-06 23:58           ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 22:29     ` Chuck Lever
2009-01-07  0:01       ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2009-01-06  1:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/4] sunrpc: Improve UTS namespace workaround Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 16:02   ` Chuck Lever
2009-01-07  0:28     ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-07  3:02     ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06  1:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/4] Represent RPC Callers Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 13:04   ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-06 23:05     ` Matt Helsley
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-01-07  0:39 [RFC][PATCH 2/4] sunrpc: Use utsnamespaces trond.myklebust
2009-01-07  0:57 ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-07  1:02   ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07  1:22     ` Matt Helsley

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