From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>,
Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/4] sunrpc: Use utsnamespaces
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 20:44:22 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090107014422.GA17913@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1231288706.11487.15.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 07:38:26PM -0500, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 19:26 -0500, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 07:20:07PM -0500, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > > As for the NFSv4 clientid, I can't see how you would ever want to use
> > > anything other than the init->utsname(), since the requirement is only
> > > that the clientid string be unique and preserved across reboots. The
> > > server isn't allowed to interpret the contents of the clientid string.
> > > Ditto for the RPCSEC_GSS machine creds that are used to establish the
> > > clientid.
> >
> > If people eventually expect to be able to, say, migrate a container to
> > another host while using an nfs mount as their storage, then they'd need
> > the name to be that of the container, not of the host.
>
> Why?
>
> > Obviously we'd also need to ensure the container got its own nfsv4
> > client state, etc., etc., and it sounds like we're far from that.
>
> Again, why? Are you seriously proposing a plan to transport all NFS and
> locking state directly from one kernel to another?
If people seem to think they can do live process and container
migration:
http://ols.fedoraproject.org/OLS/Reprints-2008/mirkin-reprint.pdf
then moving the NFS state strikes me as not the greatest of their
troubles.
I'm not volunteering!
--b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-07 1:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-06 1:13 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] utsns: RPC/NFS bug rework Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 1:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] Remove useless utsname.h includes Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 1:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/4] sunrpc: Use utsnamespaces Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 20:02 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-01-06 20:20 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-06 21:53 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-01-06 23:35 ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 22:43 ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 20:44 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-06 21:58 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-01-06 22:42 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07 0:08 ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-07 0:20 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07 0:43 ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-07 1:10 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07 0:20 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-07 0:23 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07 3:44 ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 23:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-06 23:15 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-06 23:32 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-06 23:35 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-06 23:48 ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 23:51 ` Chuck Lever
2009-01-06 23:53 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-07 0:07 ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-07 0:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-07 0:20 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07 0:20 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07 0:26 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-07 0:38 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07 1:44 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2009-01-07 1:50 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07 2:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-06 23:30 ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 23:18 ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 23:43 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-06 23:58 ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 22:29 ` Chuck Lever
2009-01-07 0:01 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-01-06 1:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/4] sunrpc: Improve UTS namespace workaround Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 16:02 ` Chuck Lever
2009-01-07 0:28 ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-07 3:02 ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 1:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/4] Represent RPC Callers Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 13:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-06 23:05 ` Matt Helsley
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-01-07 0:39 [RFC][PATCH 2/4] sunrpc: Use utsnamespaces trond.myklebust
2009-01-07 0:57 ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-07 1:02 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07 1:22 ` Matt Helsley
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