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From: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@novell.com>
Cc: ccache@lists.samba.org, Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] Recent change to kernel spikes out ccache/distcc
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 21:06:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090107200646.GF4647@uranus.ravnborg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4964C0A3.76E4.0078.0@novell.com>

On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 01:48:03PM +0000, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >>> Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org> 07.01.09 14:23 >>>
> >On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 12:35:09PM +0000, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >> >>> Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org> 07.01.09 12:31 >>>
> >> >What is the gain/pain ratio here?
> >> 
> >> Certainly depends on the pov - it reduces the kernel module (disk) image
> >> sizes quite a bit, so from a distro perspective its a move against the ever
> >> growing package sizes (and the disk space) hundreds or even thousands
> >> of modules require.
> >
> >The kernel modules seldom export anything so the benefit is minimal here.
> 
> Not really, for highly modular distro kernels.
> 
> >I did a 15 minutes hack to try ripping the .c -> .s -> .o stuff out.
> 
> Looks good to me. In case you decide to revert the stuff for .29, I'll
> merge this into my patch.
As it stand now it:
1) breaks sparc32 build
2) causes regression with distcc/ccache use when MODVERSIONS are enabled
3) the concept is under discussion

So I will have to revert it somehow.
I will look into during a partial revert though as your patches had some stuff
in them I like to keep or which does not harm (genksyms change for instance).

> 
> >Jan - I need some hard numbers to convince me that stripping the
> >__crc symbols is worth it.
> 
> The on-disk size of the modules in my builds is reduced by about 5% with
> this patch (but I can't immediately tell how much of this is due to __crc_*
> vs. other symbol stripping).

But if only on-disk size is your primary concern then another patch
of Jan Engelhardt would be a bigger win:

build: install modules compressed
---
scripts/Makefile.modinst |    2 +-
1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/scripts/Makefile.modinst b/scripts/Makefile.modinst
index efa5d94..c3421a1 100644
--- a/scripts/Makefile.modinst
+++ b/scripts/Makefile.modinst
@@ -17,7 +17,7 @@ __modinst: $(modules)
 @:

quiet_cmd_modules_install = INSTALL $@
-      cmd_modules_install = mkdir -p $(2); cp $@ $(2) ; $(mod_strip_cmd) \
			     $(2)/$(notdir $@) 
+      cmd_modules_install = mkdir -p $(2); cp $@ $(2) ; \
		$(mod_strip_cmd) $(2)/$(notdir $@); gzip -9f $(2)/$(notdir $@)
# Modules built outside the kernel source tree go into extra by default
INSTALL_MOD_DIR ?= extra


(cut'n'paste so will not apply direct)

It does not decrease the size of vmlinux but the > 1000 modules are compressed.

The patch will in some form be present in kbuild-next.git when I open up
for that.

	Sam

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-07 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-06 15:15 [REGRESSION] Recent change to kernel spikes out ccache/distcc Theodore Ts'o
2009-01-06 15:29 ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-06 17:33   ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-06 17:48     ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-06 18:04       ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-07  8:50     ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 11:31       ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-07 12:35         ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 13:23           ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-07 13:48             ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 20:06               ` Sam Ravnborg [this message]
2009-01-08 19:16                 ` Kyle McMartin
2009-01-12 14:06                 ` Gilles Espinasse
2009-01-06 17:53   ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-06 16:26 ` David Miller
2009-01-06 18:12   ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-06 22:09 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-07  4:33   ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-07  5:10 ` Al Viro
2009-01-07  8:49   ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 14:03     ` Al Viro
2009-01-07 14:28       ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 14:37         ` Al Viro
2009-01-07 14:40           ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 13:12 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-07 13:39   ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 14:28     ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-07 14:39       ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-08 19:17   ` Dave Jones
2009-01-08 21:31     ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-11 21:48       ` Kyle McMartin
2009-01-11 22:11         ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-11 22:51         ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-11 22:55           ` Kyle McMartin
2009-01-14 17:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-15  9:11   ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-15 13:40     ` Theodore Tso

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