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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] add b+tree library
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 14:23:30 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090110142330.295a8847.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090110220135.GF20611@logfs.org>

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:01:35 +0100 J__rn Engel <joern@logfs.org> wrote:

> One key difference is that rbtrees maintain the tree within objects and
> btrees maintain the tree externally.  So btrees have to allocate memory
> on insertion, where rbtrees have the necessary memory as part of the
> object.

This is a major disadvantage of the btrees.

See all the hoops we ended up jumping through with things like
radix_tree_preload() and idr_pre_get().

The IDR code there wasn't very well designed and still has holes.  The
radix-tree code afaik is solid, but look at all the stuff it does!

>  With mempools the memory allocation should be reasonably safe,
> so maybe this is a bit of a red herring now.

No, mempools won't help, particularly if items are being added from
atomic contexts.

This is a major major shortcoming which greatly limits the usefulness
of btrees and which greatly reduces the chances of anyone migrating any
rbtree users over to btrees.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-10 22:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-10 10:47 [PATCH] add b+tree library Johannes Berg
2009-01-10 11:02 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-10 11:37   ` Johannes Berg
2009-01-10 11:56     ` Jörn Engel
2009-01-10 12:29     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-10 18:39       ` Jörn Engel
2009-01-10 18:44         ` Johannes Berg
2009-01-10 19:41           ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-10 20:22             ` Johannes Berg
2009-01-10 20:23             ` Jörn Engel
2009-01-10 21:27               ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-10 22:01                 ` Jörn Engel
2009-01-10 22:23                   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2009-01-10 23:57                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-11  8:30                       ` Jörn Engel
2009-01-12 16:20                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-05  0:17                       ` Johannes Berg
2009-02-05  8:46                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-02-07 12:26                         ` Jörn Engel
2009-01-11  3:13                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-10 22:26                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-11  8:20                   ` Jörn Engel
2009-01-11 18:23                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-17 17:53 ` Pavel Machek

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