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From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap.net>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Linux killed Kenny, bastard!
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:19:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090113131937.GB17664@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090113122904.GC25011@ioremap.net>

Instead of trying to specify which process should be protected from
the OOM killer by name, how about something which is inherited from
the parent process?  After all, if having the child not get killed due
to OOM is important, the child won't even have a chance to run if the
parent gets killed off.  And in fact, we have something that fits that
bill fairly well; getrlimit()/setrlimit().  Why not define a new
resource limit which specifies a relative immunity to the oom_killer?

Most of the infrastructure to support that will already be in place
(i.e., shell support, PAM support in /etc/securitylimits.conf); all
that would need to be done is to teach a few userspace
programs/libraries about the new resource limit.

This would be a much cleaner approach, I would think.

Regards,

						- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-13 13:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-12 15:33 Linux killed Kenny, bastard! Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-12 15:44 ` Dave Jones
2009-01-12 15:48   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-12 15:51     ` Alan Cox
2009-01-12 15:52       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-12 21:29         ` Chris Snook
2009-01-12 21:42           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 13:52       ` [why oom_adj does not work] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 14:06         ` Alan Cox
2009-01-13 14:24           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 15:00             ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-13 15:21               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 18:04                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-01-13 19:46                 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-13 21:33                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 21:39                     ` David Rientjes
2009-01-13 22:05                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14 16:12                       ` OOM documentation update [was: Linux killed Kenny, bastard!] Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14 17:06                         ` [take2] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14 21:34                           ` Randy Dunlap
2009-01-14 21:53                           ` Bryan Donlan
2009-01-14 22:10                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14 22:14                             ` [take3] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-15  0:58                               ` David Rientjes
2009-01-15  8:51                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-15  8:57                                 ` [take4] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-15 11:13                                   ` David Rientjes
2009-01-12 15:49 ` Linux killed Kenny, bastard! Alan Cox
2009-01-12 15:50   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-12 15:52     ` Alan Cox
2009-01-12 15:56       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-12 16:19         ` Alan Cox
2009-01-12 16:29           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-12 23:00             ` Bill Davidsen
2009-01-12 23:17               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13  1:53                 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-13  8:52                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13  9:54                     ` David Rientjes
2009-01-13 11:54                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 12:15                         ` Alan Cox
2009-01-13 12:29                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 13:19                             ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2009-01-13 13:35                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14  0:24                                 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-01-14  0:35                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 13:47                               ` Alan Cox
2009-01-13 19:36                             ` David Rientjes
2009-01-13 21:46                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 22:49                                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-13 23:02                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14  1:11                                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-14  1:20                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14  4:06                                         ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-13 23:10                                 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-13 23:35                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 23:43                                     ` David Rientjes
2009-01-13 23:55                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14  0:32                                         ` David Rientjes
2009-01-14  0:53                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14  4:23                                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-01-14  9:07                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 19:15                         ` David Rientjes
2009-01-13 22:00                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 23:26                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-01-13 23:36                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 13:41                       ` Jan-Frode Myklebust
2009-01-13 13:59                         ` Alan Cox
2009-01-12 16:22         ` Dave Jones
2009-01-12 16:28           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 16:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-13 22:04   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-01-13 10:58 Tomasz Chmielewski
2009-01-13 12:20 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
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2009-01-17 15:21                     ` Bodo Eggert
2009-01-17 15:41                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-18 12:49                         ` Bodo Eggert
2009-01-18 13:17                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov

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