From: Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap.net>
To: Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [why oom_adj does not work] Re: Linux killed Kenny, bastard!
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:35:57 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090115223557.GC10429@ioremap.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.0.999.0901152243330.9772@be1.lrz>
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:50:58PM +0100, Bodo Eggert (7eggert@gmx.de) wrote:
> > This does not work if processes are short-living and are spawned by the
> > parent on demand.
>
> They will have the same name, too. Your Kenny-killer will fail, too.
It is not always the case, processes start executing different binaries
and change the names, that's at least what I observed in the particular
root case of the discussion.
> > If processes have different priority in regards to oom
> > condition, this problem can not be solved with existing interfaces
> > without changing the application. So effectively there is no solution.
>
> ACK, but being a child should count. Maybe the weight for childs should be
> increased, if it does not do the right thing? Or maybe the childs do share
> much (most of the) memory, so killing the parent is the right thing if you
> want to free some RAM?
There could be lots of heuristics applied for the different cases, but
without changing the application, they are somewhat limited to
long-living processes only. There are really lots of cases when it does
not stand.
--
Evgeniy Polyakov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-15 22:58 UTC|newest]
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2009-01-14 19:18 ` [why oom_adj does not work] Re: Linux killed Kenny, bastard! Bodo Eggert
2009-01-14 19:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-15 0:54 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-15 8:43 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-15 21:50 ` Bodo Eggert
2009-01-15 22:35 ` Evgeniy Polyakov [this message]
2009-01-17 14:12 ` Bodo Eggert
2009-01-17 14:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-18 12:37 ` Bodo Eggert
2009-01-18 13:13 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-18 20:25 ` Bodo Eggert
2009-01-18 20:41 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-12 15:33 Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-12 15:44 ` Dave Jones
2009-01-12 15:48 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-12 15:51 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-13 13:52 ` [why oom_adj does not work] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 14:06 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-13 14:24 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 15:00 ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-13 15:21 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 18:04 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-01-13 19:46 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-13 21:33 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-13 21:39 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-13 22:05 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
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