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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Mike Waychison <mikew@google.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/8] Deferred dput() and iput() -- reducing lock contention
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:12:10 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090117081210.GL8071@disturbed> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090117022936.20425.43248.stgit@crlf.corp.google.com>

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 06:29:36PM -0800, Mike Waychison wrote:
> We've noticed that at times it can become very easy to have a system begin to
> livelock on dcache_lock/inode_lock (specifically in atomic_dec_and_lock()) when
> a lot of dentries are getting finalized at the same time (massive delete and
> large fdtable destructions are two paths I've seen cause problems).
> 
> This patchset is an attempt to try and reduce the locking overheads associated
> with final dput() and final iput().  This is done by batching dentries and
> inodes into per-process queues and processing them in 'parallel' to consolidate
> some of the locking.

Hmmmm. This deferring of dput/iput will have the same class of
effects on filesystems as the recent reverted changes to make
generic_delete_inode() an asynchronous process. That is, it
temporally separates the transaction for namespace deletion (i.e.
unlink) from the transaction that completes the inode deletion that
occurs, typically, during ->clear_inode. See the recent thread
titled:

[PATCH] async: Don't call async_synchronize_full_special() while holding sb_lock

For more details.

I suspect that change is likely to cause worse problems than the
async changes in that it doesn't have a cap on the number of
deferred operations.....

> Besides various workload testing,

Details?

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-01-17  8:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-17  2:29 [PATCH v1 0/8] Deferred dput() and iput() -- reducing lock contention Mike Waychison
2009-01-17  2:29 ` [PATCH v1 1/8] Deferred batching of dput() Mike Waychison
2009-01-17 10:15   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-20 20:07     ` Mike Waychison
2009-01-17  2:29 ` [PATCH v1 2/8] Parallel dput() Mike Waychison
2009-01-17  2:29 ` [PATCH v1 3/8] Deferred batching of iput() Mike Waychison
2009-01-17 10:18   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-20 20:07     ` Mike Waychison
2009-01-17  2:29 ` [PATCH v1 4/8] Fixing iput() called from put_super path Mike Waychison
2009-01-17  2:30 ` [PATCH v1 5/8] Parallelize iput() Mike Waychison
2009-01-17  2:30 ` [PATCH v1 6/8] hugetlbfs drop_inode update Mike Waychison
2009-01-17  2:30 ` [PATCH v1 7/8] Make drop_caches flush pending dput()s and iput()s Mike Waychison
2009-01-17  2:30 ` [PATCH v1 8/8] Make the sync path drain dentries and inodes Mike Waychison
2009-01-17  7:04 ` [PATCH v1 0/8] Deferred dput() and iput() -- reducing lock contention Eric Dumazet
2009-01-20 20:00   ` Mike Waychison
2009-01-17  8:12 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2009-01-20 19:01   ` Mike Waychison
2009-01-29  2:09   ` Mike Waychison
2009-01-21  5:52 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-21  6:22   ` Mike Waychison
2009-01-21  8:48     ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-21 17:28       ` Mike Waychison

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