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From: Nikanth Karthikesan <knikanth@suse.de>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: "Evgeniy Polyakov" <zbr@ioremap.net>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Chris Snook" <csnook@redhat.com>,
	"Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>,
	"Paul Menage" <menage@google.com>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Cgroup based OOM killer controller
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:42:30 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200901221042.30957.knikanth@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0901211241040.21080@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 02:19:50 David Rientjes wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Nikanth Karthikesan wrote:
> > This is a container group based approach to override the oom killer
> > selection without losing all the benefits of the current oom killer
> > heuristics and oom_adj interface.
> >
> > It adds a tunable oom.victim to the oom cgroup. The oom killer will kill
> > the process using the usual badness value but only within the cgroup with
> > the maximum value for oom.victim before killing any process from a cgroup
> > with a lesser oom.victim number. Oom killing could be disabled by setting
> > oom.victim=0.
>
> This doesn't help in memcg or cpuset constrained oom conditions, which
> still go through select_bad_process().
>
> If the oom.victim value is high for a specific cgroup and a memory
> controller oom occurs in a disjoint cgroup, for example, it's possible to
> needlessly kill tasks.  Obviously that is up to the administrator to
> configure, but may not be his or her desire for system-wide oom
> conditions.
>
> It may be preferred to kill tasks in a specific cgroup first when the
> entire system is out of memory or kill tasks within a cgroup attached to a
> memory controller when it is oom.
>
> The same scenario applies for cpuset-constrained ooms.  Since oom.victim
> is given higher preference than all tasks' oom_adj values, it is possible
> to needlessly kill tasks that do not lead to future memory freeing for the
> nodes attached to that cpuset.
>
> It also requires that you synchronize the oom.victim values amongst your
> cgroups.

No, this is not specific to memcg or cpuset cases alone. The same needless 
kills will take place even without memcg or cpuset when an administrator 
specifies a light memory consumer to be killed before a heavy memory user. But 
it is up to the administrator to use it wisely. We also provide a panic_on_oom 
option that an administrator could use, not just to kill few more tasks but 
all tasks in the system ;)

Thanks
Nikanth

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-01-22  5:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-21 11:08 [RFC] [PATCH] Cgroup based OOM killer controller Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-21 13:17 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-21 15:24   ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-21 20:49     ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22  2:53       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-22  5:12         ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22  5:12       ` Nikanth Karthikesan [this message]
2009-01-22  8:43         ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22  9:23           ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22  9:39             ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 10:10               ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 10:18                 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22  9:50           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 10:00             ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 10:14               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 10:27                 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 13:21                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 20:28                     ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 21:06                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 21:35                         ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 22:04                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 22:28                             ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 22:53                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 23:25                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 23:55                     ` Paul Menage
2009-01-23  9:45                   ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-23 10:33                     ` David Rientjes
2009-01-23 14:56                       ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-23 20:44                         ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 10:20                           ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-27 10:53                             ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 11:08                               ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-27 11:21                                 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 11:37                                   ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-27 20:29                                     ` David Rientjes
2009-01-28  1:00                         ` Paul Menage
2009-01-29 15:48                           ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22  3:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-22  5:13   ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22  5:27     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-22  6:11       ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22  5:39     ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-22  6:12       ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22  6:29         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-22  6:42           ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-26 19:54 ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-26 19:56   ` Alan Cox
2009-01-27  7:02     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-27  7:26       ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-27  7:39       ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27  7:44         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-27  7:51           ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27  9:31             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27  9:37               ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 13:40                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 20:37                   ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 21:51                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 10:40               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-27 13:45                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 15:40                   ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-27 21:54                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 20:41                   ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 21:55                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov

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