From: Nikanth Karthikesan <knikanth@suse.de>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Evgeniy Polyakov" <zbr@ioremap.net>,
"Chris Snook" <csnook@redhat.com>,
"Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
"Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>,
"Paul Menage" <menage@google.com>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Cgroup based OOM killer controller
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:43:12 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200901221043.13684.knikanth@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090122122843.7e94878e.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Thursday 22 January 2009 08:58:43 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:38:21 +0530
>
> Nikanth Karthikesan <knikanth@suse.de> wrote:
> > As Alan Cox suggested/wondered in this thread,
> > http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/1/12/235 , this is a container group based
> > approach to override the oom killer selection without losing all the
> > benefits of the current oom killer heuristics and oom_adj interface.
> >
> > It adds a tunable oom.victim to the oom cgroup. The oom killer will kill
> > the process using the usual badness value but only within the cgroup with
> > the maximum value for oom.victim before killing any process from a cgroup
> > with a lesser oom.victim number. Oom killing could be disabled by setting
> > oom.victim=0.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Nikanth Karthikesan <knikanth@suse.de>
>
> Assume following
> - the usar can tell "which process should be killed at first"
>
> What is the difference between oom_adj and this cgroup to users ?
It is next to impossible to specify the order among say 10 memory hogging
tasks using oom_adj. Using this oom-controller users can specify the exact
order.
> If oom_adj is hard to use, making it simpler is a good way, I think.
> rather than adding new complication.
>
> It seems both of oom_adj and this cgroup will be hard-to-use functions
> for usual system administrators. But no better idea than using memcg
> and committing memory usage.
>
To use oom_adj effectively one should continuously monitor oom_score of all
the processes, which is a complex moving target and keep on adjusting the
oom_adj of many tasks which still cannot guarantee the order. This controller
is deterministic and hence easier to use.
Thanks
Nikanth
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-22 5:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-21 11:08 [RFC] [PATCH] Cgroup based OOM killer controller Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-21 13:17 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-21 15:24 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-21 20:49 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 2:53 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-22 5:12 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 5:12 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 8:43 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 9:23 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 9:39 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 10:10 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 10:18 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 9:50 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 10:00 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 10:14 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 10:27 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 13:21 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 20:28 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 21:06 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 21:35 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 22:04 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 22:28 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 22:53 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 23:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 23:55 ` Paul Menage
2009-01-23 9:45 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-23 10:33 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-23 14:56 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-23 20:44 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 10:20 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-27 10:53 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 11:08 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-27 11:21 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 11:37 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-27 20:29 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-28 1:00 ` Paul Menage
2009-01-29 15:48 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 3:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-22 5:13 ` Nikanth Karthikesan [this message]
2009-01-22 5:27 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-22 6:11 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 5:39 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-22 6:12 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 6:29 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-22 6:42 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-26 19:54 ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-26 19:56 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-27 7:02 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-27 7:26 ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-27 7:39 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 7:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-27 7:51 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 9:31 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 9:37 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 13:40 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 20:37 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 21:51 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 10:40 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-27 13:45 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 15:40 ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-27 21:54 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 20:41 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 21:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
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