From: Nikanth Karthikesan <knikanth@suse.de>
To: "Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap.net>,
Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Cgroup based OOM killer controller
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:42:00 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200901221142.00803.knikanth@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d6200be20901212139u3683c829x4db1840a28986a6f@mail.gmail.com>
On Thursday 22 January 2009 11:09:45 Arve Hjønnevåg wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Nikanth Karthikesan <knikanth@suse.de>
wrote:
> > To use oom_adj effectively one should continuously monitor oom_score of
> > all the processes, which is a complex moving target and keep on adjusting
> > the oom_adj of many tasks which still cannot guarantee the order. This
> > controller is deterministic and hence easier to use.
>
> Why not add an option to make oom_adj ensure strict ordering instead?
This could be done in 2 ways.
1. Make oom_adj itself strict.(based on some other parameter?)
- Adds to confusion whether the current oom_adj is a strict value or the usual
suggestion.
- It would disable the oom_adj suggestion which could have been used till now.
- It is a public interface, and changing that might break some one's script.
2. Add addtional parameter, say /proc/<pid>/oom_order
- Not easy to use.
- Say I had assigned the oom.victim to a task and it had forked a lot. Now to
change the value for all the tasks it is easier with cgroups.
- Some optimization that Kame specified earlier would be harder to achieve.
Basically oom-controller implements option 2, using cgroups which can be
thought of as a modern interface for proc. Also it could be used along with
other cgroup controllers like the group scheduler. Say you have 2 groups of
tasks, clubed as entertainment and science, you could use the group scheduler
to give more CPU bandwidth to science and instruct oom-controller to kill
entertainment tasks in case of OOM situation.
Thanks
Nikanth
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-22 6:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-21 11:08 [RFC] [PATCH] Cgroup based OOM killer controller Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-21 13:17 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-21 15:24 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-21 20:49 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 2:53 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-22 5:12 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 5:12 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 8:43 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 9:23 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 9:39 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 10:10 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 10:18 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 9:50 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 10:00 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 10:14 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 10:27 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 13:21 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 20:28 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 21:06 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 21:35 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 22:04 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 22:28 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 22:53 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 23:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 23:55 ` Paul Menage
2009-01-23 9:45 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-23 10:33 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-23 14:56 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-23 20:44 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 10:20 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-27 10:53 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 11:08 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-27 11:21 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 11:37 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-27 20:29 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-28 1:00 ` Paul Menage
2009-01-29 15:48 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 3:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-22 5:13 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 5:27 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-22 6:11 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 5:39 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-22 6:12 ` Nikanth Karthikesan [this message]
2009-01-22 6:29 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-22 6:42 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-26 19:54 ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-26 19:56 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-27 7:02 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-27 7:26 ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-27 7:39 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 7:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-27 7:51 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 9:31 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 9:37 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 13:40 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 20:37 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 21:51 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 10:40 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-27 13:45 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 15:40 ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-27 21:54 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 20:41 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 21:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
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