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From: Mandeep Singh Baines <msb@google.com>
To: "Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rientjes@google.com,
	mbligh@google.com, thockin@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] softlockup: remove hung_task_check_count
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:55:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090124015513.GA31189@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c62985530901230204i3880c3f8xbebdb6844f35addf@mail.gmail.com>

Frédéric Weisbecker (fweisbec@gmail.com) wrote:
> 2009/1/23 Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>:
> >
> > not sure i like the whole idea of removing the max iterations check. In
> > theory if there's a _ton_ of tasks, we could spend a lot of time looping
> > there. So it always looked prudent to limit it somewhat.
> >
> 
> Which means we can loose several of them. Would it hurt to iterate as
> much as possible along the task list,
> keeping some care about writers starvation and latency?
> BTW I thought about the slow work framework, but I can't retrieve
> it....  But this thread has already a slow priority.
> 
> Would it be interesting to provide a way for rwlocks to know if there
> is writer waiting for the lock?

Would be cool if that API existed. You could release the CPU and/or lock as
soon as either was contended for. You'd have the benefits of fine-grained
locking without the overhead of locking and unlocking multiple time.

Currently, there is no bit that can tell you there is a writer waiting. You'd
probably need to change the write_lock() implementation at a minimum. Maybe
if the first writer left the RW_LOCK_BIAS bit clear and then waited for the
readers to leave instead of re-trying? That would actually make write_lock()
more efficient for the 1-writer case since you'd only need to spin doing
a read in the failure case instead of an atomic_dec and atomic_inc.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-24  1:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-21  1:46 [PATCH] softlockup: remove hung_task_check_count Mandeep Singh Baines
2009-01-21 11:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-21 13:14   ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-01-22  0:54   ` [PATCH v2] " Mandeep Singh Baines
2009-01-22  8:34     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-22 19:55       ` [PATCH v3] " Mandeep Singh Baines
2009-01-23  3:21         ` Mandeep Baines
2009-01-23  9:23           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-23 10:04             ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-01-24  1:55               ` Mandeep Singh Baines [this message]
2009-01-24 15:52                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-01-26  2:25                   ` Mandeep Baines
2009-01-24  2:56             ` Mandeep Singh Baines

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