From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, rusty@rustcorp.com.au, travis@sgi.com,
mingo@redhat.com, davej@redhat.com, cpufreq@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] work_on_cpu: Use our own workqueue.
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:50:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090126215049.GA3493@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090126133551.fab5e27a.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On 01/26, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:27:27 +0100
> Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>
> >
> > * Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > > > So if it's generic it ought to be implemented in a generic way - not a
> > > > "dont use from any codepath that has a lock held that might
> > > > occasionally also be held in a keventd worklet". (which is a totally
> > > > unmaintainable proposition and which would just cause repeat bugs
> > > > again and again.)
> > >
> > > That's different. The core fault here lies in the keventd workqueue
> > > handling code. If we're flushing work A then we shouldn't go and block
> > > behind unrelated work B.
> >
> > the blocking is inherent in the concept of "a queue of worklets handled by
> > a single thread".
> >
> > If a worklet is blocked then all other work performed by that thread is
> > blocked as well. So by waiting on a piece of work in the queue, we wait
> > for all prior work queued up there as well.
> >
> > The only way to decouple that and to make them independent (and hence
> > independently flushable) is to create more parallel flows of execution:
> > i.e. by creating another thread (another workqueue).
> >
>
> Nope. As I said, the caller of flush_work() can detach the work item
> and run it directly.
I am totally confused, just can't understand this thread...
I guess, we can't detach and execute because we can run on the
different CPU.
But "[PATCH 1/3] work_on_cpu: dont try to get_online_cpus() in work_on_cpu."
removes get_online_cpus/put_online_cpus, this means the work can run on
the wrong CPU anyway. Or work_on_cpu() can hang forever if CPU has already
gone away before queue_work_on().
Confused.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-26 21:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-16 19:11 [PATCH 0/3] cpu freq: fix problems with work_on_cpu usage in acpi-cpufreq Mike Travis
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 1/3] work_on_cpu: dont try to get_online_cpus() in work_on_cpu Mike Travis
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 2/3] work_on_cpu: Use our own workqueue Mike Travis
2009-01-24 8:15 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <200901261711.43943.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2009-01-26 7:01 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 17:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 18:35 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 20:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 20:43 ` Mike Travis
2009-01-26 21:00 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 21:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 21:35 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 21:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:01 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:16 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:50 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 23:42 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 23:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-27 0:42 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 21:50 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-01-26 22:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 23:01 ` Mike Travis
2009-01-27 0:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27 7:15 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-27 17:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27 7:05 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-27 7:25 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-27 15:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-27 16:51 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-28 13:02 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-28 17:19 ` Mike Travis
2009-01-28 17:32 ` Mike Travis
2009-01-29 10:39 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-28 19:44 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-29 1:43 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-29 2:12 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30 6:03 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-30 6:30 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30 13:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-30 17:08 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30 21:59 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-30 22:17 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-02 12:35 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-03 4:06 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 2:44 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-04 3:01 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 10:41 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-04 15:36 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 21:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-04 21:48 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 21:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-04 23:45 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-05 12:19 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-05 17:44 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2009-02-10 8:54 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-10 9:35 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-11 0:32 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 3/3] cpufreq: use work_on_cpu in acpi-cpufreq.c for drv_read and drv_write Mike Travis
2009-01-16 23:38 ` [PATCH 0/3] cpu freq: fix problems with work_on_cpu usage in acpi-cpufreq [PULL request] Mike Travis
2009-01-17 22:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-19 17:11 ` Mike Travis
2009-01-19 17:26 ` Ingo Molnar
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