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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	cpufreq@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] work_on_cpu: Use our own workqueue.
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:51:26 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090127085126.730dd77a.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090127152830.GA22373@elte.hu>

On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:28:30 +0100 Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:

> 
> * Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> 
> > > But it's a general comment about fixing a general issue.  The 
> > > currently known case is not directly relevent; that it can happen and 
> > > it's restricting the use of this otherwise-general API is.
> > 
> > I think we should switch acpi-cpufreq to smp_call_function(), revert 
> > this stuff and ban the calling of work_on_cpu() under locks.
> 
> I agree that do_drv_read()/write() should be converted to 
> smp_function_call() (what it does is atomic: msr or PIO cycles).
> 
> Then work_on_cpu() can be removed for good, to not lure people into using 
> it. You seem to agree that work_on_cpu() is unfixable so it's far better 
> to offer nothing than to offer such a deceivingly named but fundamentally 
> limited facility.
> 

Well, I don't think it's unfixable.  But a full fix would, I think,
require a kernel thread for each callback invokation.  As dicussed
earlier, this could be optimised to only create the new kernel thread
if the keventd thread is presently off doing something else.

Is work_on_cpu() valuable enough to justify doing all that?  Dunno.
It appears to have six callers in three drivers at present, which is
quite a large number.

Or perhaps there's a smarter way of fixing it all.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-27 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-16 19:11 [PATCH 0/3] cpu freq: fix problems with work_on_cpu usage in acpi-cpufreq Mike Travis
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 1/3] work_on_cpu: dont try to get_online_cpus() in work_on_cpu Mike Travis
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 2/3] work_on_cpu: Use our own workqueue Mike Travis
2009-01-24  8:15   ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]     ` <200901261711.43943.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2009-01-26  7:01       ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 17:16         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 18:35           ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 20:20             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 20:43               ` Mike Travis
2009-01-26 21:00               ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 21:27                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 21:35                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 21:45                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:01                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:05                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:16                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:20                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:50                               ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:59                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 23:42                                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 23:53                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-27  0:42                                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:31                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:15                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:24                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:37                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:42                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 21:50                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:17                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 23:01                         ` Mike Travis
2009-01-27  0:09                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27  7:15                         ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-27 17:55                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27  7:05         ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-27  7:25           ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-27 15:28             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-27 16:51               ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2009-01-28 13:02             ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-28 17:19               ` Mike Travis
2009-01-28 17:32                 ` Mike Travis
2009-01-29 10:39                   ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-28 19:44               ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-29  1:43                 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-29  2:12                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30  6:03                     ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-30  6:30                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30 13:49                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-30 17:08                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30 21:59                         ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-30 22:17                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-02 12:35                             ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-03  4:06                               ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04  2:44                                 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-04  3:01                                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 10:41                                     ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-04 15:36                                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 21:35                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-04 21:48                                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 21:54                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-04 23:45                                             ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-05 12:19                                             ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-05 17:44                                             ` Dmitry Adamushko
2009-02-10  8:54                                         ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-10  9:35                                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-11  0:32                                             ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 3/3] cpufreq: use work_on_cpu in acpi-cpufreq.c for drv_read and drv_write Mike Travis
2009-01-16 23:38 ` [PATCH 0/3] cpu freq: fix problems with work_on_cpu usage in acpi-cpufreq [PULL request] Mike Travis
2009-01-17 22:08   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-19 17:11     ` Mike Travis
2009-01-19 17:26       ` Ingo Molnar

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