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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Harvey Harrison <harvey.harrison@gmail.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@kernel.org>,
	Jaswinder Singh Rajput <jaswinder@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	Jaswinder Singh Rajput <jaswinderrajput@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: do not expose CONFIG_BSWAP to userspace
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:24:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200901290024.09815.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4980D913.3000505@zytor.com>

On Wednesday 28 January 2009, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> So, one ends up doing something like:
> 
> #ifdef __i486__
> # define __CPU_HAVE_BSWAP
> #endif
> #ifdef __i586__
> # define __CPU_HAVE_BSWAP
> #endif
> 
> ... and so on, and have to keep this up to date with the latest 
> inventions of the gcc people.  *Sob.*

Well, to put this into perspective: The bswap inline assembly was
introduced in Linux-1.3.51 "Greased Weasel", back in 1995 and at
no time it was ever visible to user space, unless the code manually
included <linux/config.h> (which we broke) or defined CONFIG_M486,
CONFIG_X86_BSWAP and/or __KERNEL__, depending on the kernel version.

I take this as a strong indication that user space applications
won't generally expect to get the bswap instruction from including
the kernel headers. For the longest time, we actually had

/* For avoiding bswap on i386 */
#ifdef __KERNEL__
#include <linux/config.h>
#endif

which I read as explicitly using the portable i386 version for
all user space.

	Arnd <><

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-01-28 23:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20090127222825.GA27097@elte.hu>
2009-01-27 22:57 ` [mingo@elte.hu: [git pull] headers_check fixes] Linus Torvalds
2009-01-27 23:22   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-27 23:29     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-28  0:12       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-28  0:19         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-28  1:02           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-27 23:31   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-27 23:43     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-27 23:51     ` Vegard Nossum
2009-01-30 14:01     ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-01-30 18:20       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-28  0:03   ` Harvey Harrison
2009-01-28  1:36   ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-01-28 12:37     ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-01-28 17:48       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-28 19:22         ` Harvey Harrison
2009-01-28 19:44           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-28 20:03             ` Harvey Harrison
2009-01-28 21:25               ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-28 21:58                 ` [PATCH] x86: do not expose CONFIG_BSWAP to userspace Harvey Harrison
2009-01-28 22:13                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-28 22:40                     ` Harvey Harrison
2009-01-30 20:37                       ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-28 22:15                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-28 22:38                     ` Harvey Harrison
2009-01-28 23:04                       ` Ben Pfaff
2009-01-30 18:20                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-28 23:27                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-28 23:36                         ` Harvey Harrison
2009-01-28 23:47                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-03 18:19                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-01-31 18:43                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2009-01-31 20:24                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-28 23:24                     ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2009-01-28 23:30                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-28 20:49             ` [mingo@elte.hu: [git pull] headers_check fixes] Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-28 21:23           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-28 21:06   ` Sam Ravnborg

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