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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	cpufreq@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] work_on_cpu: Use our own workqueue.
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:33:53 +1030	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200901301633.54013.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090128181205.3b15fa4a.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Thursday 29 January 2009 12:42:05 Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:13:32 +1030 Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au> wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday 29 January 2009 06:14:40 Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > It's vulnerable to the same deadlock, I think?  Suppose we have:
> > ...
> > > - A calls work_on_cpu() and takes woc_mutex.
> > > 
> > > - Before function_which_takes_L() has started to execute, task B takes L
> > >   then calls work_on_cpu() and task B blocks on woc_mutex.
> > > 
> > > - Now function_which_takes_L() runs, and blocks on L
> > 
> > Agreed, but now it's a fairly simple case.  Both sides have to take lock L, and both have to call work_on_cpu.
> > 
> > Workqueues are more generic and widespread, and an amazing amount of stuff gets called from them.  That's why I felt uncomfortable with removing the one known problematic caller.
> > 
> 
> hm.  it's a bit of a timebomb.
> 
> y'know, the original way in which acpi-cpufreq did this is starting to
> look attractive.  Migrate self to that CPU then just call the dang
> function.  Slow, but no deadlocks (I think)?

Just buggy.  What random thread was it mugging?  If there's any path where
it's not a kthread, what if userspace does the same thing at the same time?
We risk running on the wrong cpu, *then* overriding userspace when we restore
it.

In general these cpumask games are a bad idea.

Rusty.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-30  6:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-16 19:11 [PATCH 0/3] cpu freq: fix problems with work_on_cpu usage in acpi-cpufreq Mike Travis
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 1/3] work_on_cpu: dont try to get_online_cpus() in work_on_cpu Mike Travis
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 2/3] work_on_cpu: Use our own workqueue Mike Travis
2009-01-24  8:15   ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]     ` <200901261711.43943.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2009-01-26  7:01       ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 17:16         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 18:35           ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 20:20             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 20:43               ` Mike Travis
2009-01-26 21:00               ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 21:27                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 21:35                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 21:45                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:01                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:05                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:16                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:20                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:50                               ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:59                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 23:42                                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 23:53                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-27  0:42                                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:31                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:15                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:24                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:37                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:42                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 21:50                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:17                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 23:01                         ` Mike Travis
2009-01-27  0:09                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27  7:15                         ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-27 17:55                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27  7:05         ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-27  7:25           ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-27 15:28             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-27 16:51               ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-28 13:02             ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-28 17:19               ` Mike Travis
2009-01-28 17:32                 ` Mike Travis
2009-01-29 10:39                   ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-28 19:44               ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-29  1:43                 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-29  2:12                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30  6:03                     ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2009-01-30  6:30                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30 13:49                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-30 17:08                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30 21:59                         ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-30 22:17                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-02 12:35                             ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-03  4:06                               ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04  2:44                                 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-04  3:01                                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 10:41                                     ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-04 15:36                                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 21:35                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-04 21:48                                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 21:54                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-04 23:45                                             ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-05 12:19                                             ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-05 17:44                                             ` Dmitry Adamushko
2009-02-10  8:54                                         ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-10  9:35                                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-11  0:32                                             ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 3/3] cpufreq: use work_on_cpu in acpi-cpufreq.c for drv_read and drv_write Mike Travis
2009-01-16 23:38 ` [PATCH 0/3] cpu freq: fix problems with work_on_cpu usage in acpi-cpufreq [PULL request] Mike Travis
2009-01-17 22:08   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-19 17:11     ` Mike Travis
2009-01-19 17:26       ` Ingo Molnar

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