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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Vitaliy Gusev <vgusev@openvz.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] kthreads: rework kthread_stop()
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:41:10 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090203134110.GC6607@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1hc3c19s7.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>

On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 07:25:44PM -0800, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On 02/02, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> >>
> >> Oleg on that note we should not need a barrier at all. We should be
> >> able to simply say:
> >>
> >> cmplp = k->vfork_done;
> >> if (cmplp){
> >> 	/* if vfork_done is NULL we have passed mm_release */
> >> 	kthread = container_of(cmplp, struct kthread, exited);
> >> 	kthread->should_stop = 1;
> >> 	wake_up_process(k);
> >> 	wait_for_completion(&kthread->exited);
> >> }
> >
> > Yes, but the compiler can read ->vfork_done twice, and turn this code
> > into
> >
> > 	cmplp = k->vfork_done;
> > 	if (cmplp){
> > 		kthread = container_of(k->vfork_done, struct kthread, exited);
> > 		...
> >
> > and when we read k->vfork_done again it can be already NULL.
> > Probably we could use ACCESS_ONCE() instead.
> >
> > Perhaps this barrier() is not needed in practice, but just to be safe.
> 
> Certainly.   I definitely see where you are coming from.
> And of course all of this only works because a pointer is a word size
> so it is read and updated atomically by the compiler.
> 
> I wish we had a good idiom we could use to make it clear what we
> are doing.  The rcu pointer read code perhaps?

ACCESS_ONCE() suffices in many cases, but if the pointer being accessed
points to a structure that might recently have been initialized, then
rcu_dereference() will be required on Alpha.  Though perhaps the
discussion below removes the need entirely, but cannot say that I fully
understand this part of the kernel.

							Thanx, Paul

> > And in fact I saw the bug report with this code:
> >
> > 	ac.ac_tty = current->signal->tty ?
> > 		old_encode_dev(tty_devnum(current->signal->tty)) : 0;
> >
> > this code is wrong anyway, but ->tty was read twice. I specially
> > asked for .s file because I wasn't able to believe the bug manifests
> > itself this way.
> 
> Interesting.
> 
> >> Thinking of it I wish we had someplace we could store a pointer
> >> that would not be cleared so we could remove that whole confusing
> >> conditional.  I just looked through task_struct and there doesn't
> >> appear to be anything promising.
> >>
> >> Perhaps we could rename vfork_done mm_done and not clear it in
> >> mm_release.
> >
> > Yes, in that case we don't need the barrier().
> >
> > I was thinking about changing mm_release() too, but we should clear
> > ->vfork_done (or whatever) in exec_mmap() anyway.
> 
> Yes.  I realized that just after I wrote that.  So clearing
> vfork_done in all cases is a good idea so we don't make get sloppy.
> 
> Eric
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-03 13:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-30 12:33 [PATCH 3/4] kthreads: rework kthread_stop() Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-30 12:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-31 12:16   ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-01 10:21     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-02 17:57       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-02 19:41         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-03  3:25           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-03 13:41             ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2009-02-04  5:10               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-04 11:04                 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-04 15:59                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-05  1:03                     ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-04 20:46                   ` Jon Masters
2009-01-30 21:47 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-01 10:49   ` Oleg Nesterov

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