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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: mpm@selenic.com, dada1@cosmosbay.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, andi@firstfloor.org,
	oleg@redhat.com, viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk,
	davidel@xmailserver.org, davem@davemloft.net, hch@lst.de,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] Convert epoll to a bitlock
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:29:08 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090203152908.355699e0.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090203161931.4054a25e@bike.lwn.net>

On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:19:31 -0700
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:53:46 -0800
> Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> 
> > Well.  We _could_ whack part of this nut with my usual hammer: protect
> > f_flags with file->f_dentry->d_inode->i_lock.  IIRC there was some
> > objection to that - performance?
> 
> Andi has objected to the addition of locks, but i_lock is maybe
> sufficiently dispersed to pass muster there.

Hope so.

I'd wrap it in a lock_file_flags(file*) thing so we can change it later
on (add a lock to struct file, take a global, lock, etc).

>  I had an instinctive
> reaction to using a lock which is three pointers away, but I can get
> over that.  I'll admit a bit of ignorance, though: if a given struct
> file exists, do we know for sure that file->f_dentry->d_inode exists?

It should.  A NULL ->d_inode especially signifies a negative dentry.

> > One problem here seems to be that we're trying to change multiple
> > things at the same time.  We can blame the BKL for that.
> > 
> > Can we break the problem into manageable chunks?  Your patchset did
> > that, I guess.  What were those chunks again? ;)
> 
> I'm not really sure how to break it down any further.  If we take the
> i_lock approach, the chunks would be something like:
> 
>  1) Use i_lock to protect accesses to f_flags.  This would enable some 
>     BKL usage to be removed, but would not fix fasync.
> 
>  2) Move responsibility for the FASYNC bit into ->fasync(), with
>     fasync_helper() doing it in almost all situations.  The remaining
>     BKL usage would then go away.
> 
>  3) The same optional fasync() return values cleanup.
> 
> Make sense?

yup.

If the ->i_lock think is no good then we can trivially switch over to a
global lock.  Heck, we could even go back to lock_kernel() ;)


  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-03 23:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-02 18:20 [PATCH/RFC] F_SETFL/Fasync BKL removal, now without unsightly global locks Jonathan Corbet
2009-02-02 18:20 ` [PATCH 1/4] Use bit operations for file->f_flags Jonathan Corbet
2009-02-03 21:37   ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-02 18:20 ` [PATCH 2/4] Convert epoll to a bitlock Jonathan Corbet
2009-02-03 21:39   ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-03 21:55     ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-03 22:05       ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-03 22:22         ` Matt Mackall
2009-02-03 22:37           ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-02-03 22:53             ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-03 23:09               ` Davide Libenzi
2009-02-03 23:12                 ` Davide Libenzi
2009-02-03 23:19               ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-02-03 23:29                 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2009-02-04  7:13                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-02-04  7:20                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-04 13:34                     ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-02-04 16:51                   ` Davide Libenzi
2009-02-03 23:08       ` Davide Libenzi
2009-02-04  2:48         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-04  1:00     ` wli
2009-02-04  4:54     ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-02 18:20 ` [PATCH 3/4] Move FASYNC bit handling to f_op->fasync() Jonathan Corbet
2009-02-02 18:20 ` [PATCH 4/4] Rationalize fasync return values Jonathan Corbet

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