From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [RFC] process wide itimer cruft
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:22:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090203182240.GA19079@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1233683499.10184.45.camel@laptop>
On 02/03, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> ->live -- the number of associated tasks,
> ->count -- not quite a refcount?
No, ->count is not a refcount.
Basically, ->count means how many threads didn't pass release_task() yet.
Well, actually __exit_signal(), but this doesn't matter. The thread becomes
"really dead" after that. Until then, it is still visible to, say,
find_task_by_vpid, signals, etc.
But if we have a zombie group leader, it may stay zombie "forever", and
->count doesn't go to zero. So we also have signal->live, when it is zero
we know that all sub-threads at least entered do_exit(). For example,
we can safely do exit_itimers() when ->live == 0, no other thread can
do sys_timer_create() (or any syscall of course).
> Could you shed a bit of light on the distinction between sighand and
> signal?
->signal is protected by ->sighand->siglock, and they both cleared
"atomically" under ->siglock in __exit_signal. I guess, the only
reason for 2 structures is CLONE_SIGHAND which can be used without
CLONE_THREAD.
Now, let's look at arch/ia64/kernel/ptrace.c:ptrace_attach_sync_user_rbs()
read_lock(&tasklist_lock);
if (child->signal) {
... this task is alive, we can proceed ...
This is correct, but if we want to make ->signal refcountable, we
should turn the above check into
if (child->sighand) {
This is the same, but allows use to never clear task->signal.
I'll try to send the patch which does this today, we should also
change posix-cpu-timers.c and thats all, if my grepping was right.
> > I think we really need another counter, at least for now.
>
> Don't rush on my account, Ingo's proposed solution doesn't need this.
OK.
Oleg.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-03 18:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-01 7:30 hackbench [pthread mode] regression with 2.6.29-rc3 Zhang, Yanmin
[not found] ` <d3f22a0902010026q1db36381j36cb1c9803d48431@mail.gmail.com>
2009-02-01 8:29 ` Lin Ming
2009-02-01 9:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-01 9:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-01 10:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-02 1:12 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-02-02 8:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-02 17:49 ` Bryon Roche
2009-02-02 20:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-03 11:56 ` [RFC] process wide itimer cruft Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-03 17:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-03 17:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-03 18:22 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
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