From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jesse Barnes <jesse.barnes@intel.com>,
Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Reworking suspend-resume sequence (was: Re: PCI PM: Restore standard config registers of all devices early)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:41:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090203184133.GA18323@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0902031022390.3247@localhost.localdomain>
* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> > So don't worry about putting devices in D3 - disable_irq() will not care
> > AT ALL whether the device is alive or not, and will never try to touch
> > it anyway.
>
> Btw, this is very much the case for MSI irq's in particular. If you ask to
> _mask_ them, it will go to the look up the device list and try to mask
> them (quite frankly, that sounds insane to me, but whatever), but that not
> what the irq layer does for the simple "disable()" case.
>
> It will literally just set the flag, and then even if an interrupt happens
> afterwards, it will just ->ack it, and then call the ->end thing - and
> doesn't need to do anything else in the whole "disable" path because MSI's
> are obviously edge-triggered.
>
> And the ACK is a pure (x2/io)apic thing, and again doesn't actually touch
> the device itself, only the irq controller itself.
>
> So while it is possible in theory that some irq controller ends up trying
> to access the device for disable_irq, I don't think it's ever true in
> reality.
>
> But it's possible that I overlooked some really odd case, of course.
Sidenote: one future usecase that moves towards this might be threaded IRQ
handlers - but it's not a real problem.
For them to run well we want to split IRQ processing into two bits: the
"fast and atomic" bit, which just goes in, checks which hw generated the
IRQ, then disables that hw via its device, and then wakes up the irq kernel
thread to do all the fancy stuff.
[ at this point that 'complete the IRQ' processing might even be done on
another CPU - if we decide that the irq was requested from a given CPU. So
there's even performance advantage to such a splitup. We have not yet
built up much local CPU state so we can migrate the work cheaply. ]
But it's not an issue: this too will be driven centrally and disable_irq()
will obviously inhibit irqs to all handlers on the chain [to stay
compatible] and not touch the device hw in the suspend case.
So the 'disable the device irq itself' functionality is hidden behind the
irq flow machinery - and never executed once you've done a widespread
disable_irq() calls on (almost) all devices.
Ingo
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Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2009-02-02 9:54 ` PCI PM: Restore standard config registers of all devices early Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 17:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 20:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 20:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 21:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 21:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 20:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 20:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 20:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 21:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 21:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 22:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 22:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 22:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 23:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 23:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 23:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 0:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 0:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 1:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 1:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 1:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 3:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 3:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 4:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 6:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 15:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 22:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 23:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 16:33 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-02-03 0:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 0:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 3:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 3:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 4:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 4:21 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 9:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 17:04 ` Reworking suspend-resume sequence (was: Re: PCI PM: Restore standard config registers of all devices early) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 17:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 18:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 18:41 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-02-03 18:32 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-02-03 18:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 19:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 19:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 19:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 20:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 20:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 20:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 21:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 21:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-02-04 10:07 ` Russell King
2009-02-03 21:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 19:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 21:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 21:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 22:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 22:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 23:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 23:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-04 0:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-04 8:02 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-04 23:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-05 8:19 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-05 19:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 23:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-04 0:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 21:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 21:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 17:53 ` PCI PM: Restore standard config registers of all devices early Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 21:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 22:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 23:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 0:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 0:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 0:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 1:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 5:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 11:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-03 12:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-02 23:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 22:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 23:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 22:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 21:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 21:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 22:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 22:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 22:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 0:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 0:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-10 20:25 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-02 22:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 23:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 1:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-10 20:25 ` kmalloc during suspend, was " Pavel Machek
2009-02-02 17:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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