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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Jesse Barnes <jesse.barnes@intel.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Reworking suspend-resume sequence (was: Re: PCI PM: Restore standard config registers of all devices early)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:53:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090203195304.GA31049@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0902031120080.3247@localhost.localdomain>


* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > 
> > > I'm really not sure why that handle_edge_irq thing uses "ack_and_mask()" 
> > > instead of just "desc->chip->ack()"? I'm also totally flummoxed as to why 
> > > it feels it needs to go all the way out to the device to mask things, 
> > > instead of just masking at an apic level, which is much simpler and faster 
> > > (especially since masking should never happen in practice anyway).
> > 
> > Hm, do you mean mask_ack_irq()?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> >		 The ->mask_ack() irqchip method is just a 
> > small tweak normally: if we get an irq while the irq was disabled, we can 
> > mark it pending and masks it for real.
> 
> No, I know why mask_ack_irq() does what it does and I agree with it. What 
> I was really reacting to was that handle_edge_irq() calls it at _all_. 
> IOW, I'm talking about this code:
> 
> 	handle_edge_irq(unsigned int irq, struct irq_desc *desc)
> 	...
> 	        if (unlikely((desc->status & (IRQ_INPROGRESS | IRQ_DISABLED)) ||
> 	                    !desc->action)) {
> 	                desc->status |= (IRQ_PENDING | IRQ_MASKED);
> 	                mask_ack_irq(desc, irq);
> 	..
> 
> where the masking part seems a bit pointless. And in the case of MSI, it 
> causes us to go all the way out to the device, which sounds pretty 
> expensive too.

hm, i agree that your patched version looks much simpler.

There's two reasons we have this variant:

 - huge bikeshed painting thread in the early days of the genirq patchset, 
   with folks expressing concern about our original plans to keep 
   edge-triggered unmasked _always_. (which your patch does too)
   So we just went with the path of least resistence and used this hybride.

 - the screaming-irq observation i had - do you consider that valid?:

   >> [ In theory this also solves screaming level-triggered irqs that 
   >>   advertise themselves as edge-triggered [due to firmware/BIOS bug - 
   >>   these do happen] and then keep spamming the system. ]

   I wanted to have a pretty much interchangeable flow method between edge 
   and level triggered - so that the BIOS cannot screw us by enumerating an 
   irq as edge-triggered while it's level-triggered.

   Especially for legacy x86 irqs in the low <16 range the trigger mode can 
   be influenced by chipset settings and might not always be what we think 
   it is.

That's my rough recollection - Thomas, is that correct and do you have 
anything to add here?

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-03 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200901261904.n0QJ4Q9c016709@hera.kernel.org>
2009-02-02  9:54 ` PCI PM: Restore standard config registers of all devices early Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 17:06   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 20:29     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 20:41       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 21:00         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 21:32           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 20:33     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 20:50       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 20:55         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 21:19           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 21:39           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 22:05             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 22:09               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 22:31               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 23:18                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 23:45                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 23:59                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03  0:15                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03  0:28                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03  1:12                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  1:32                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03  1:46                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  3:30                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  3:47                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03  4:03                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  6:07                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 15:48                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 22:59                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 23:23                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 16:33                             ` Jesse Barnes
2009-02-03  0:15                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03  0:58                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  3:51                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  3:55                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  4:09                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03  4:21                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  9:26                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 17:04                       ` Reworking suspend-resume sequence (was: Re: PCI PM: Restore standard config registers of all devices early) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 17:59                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 18:31                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 18:41                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 18:32                           ` Jesse Barnes
2009-02-03 18:46                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 19:03                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 19:13                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 19:38                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 19:53                                     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-02-03 20:04                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 20:18                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 20:57                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 21:04                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 21:12                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-02-04 10:07                                               ` Russell King
2009-02-03 21:18                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 19:19                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 21:11                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 21:53                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 22:33                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 22:44                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 23:05                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 23:18                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-04  0:27                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-04  8:02                                               ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-04 23:25                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-05  8:19                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-05 19:09                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 23:25                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-04  0:46                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 21:02                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 21:56                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 17:53                       ` PCI PM: Restore standard config registers of all devices early Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 21:57                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 22:48               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 23:00                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03  0:23                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  0:29                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03  0:44                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03  1:32                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  5:06                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 11:06                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-03 12:09                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-02 23:49               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 22:09                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 23:13                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 22:28             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 21:07         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 21:49           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 22:15             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 22:33               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 22:56                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03  0:11                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  0:21                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-10 20:25                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-02 22:57               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 23:22                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03  1:03                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-10 20:25                     ` kmalloc during suspend, was " Pavel Machek
2009-02-02 17:20   ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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