From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@redhat.com>,
Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm 0/3] ptrace: detach wakeup fixes
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 02:43:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090209014355.GA27609@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090209005405.888BFFC317@magilla.sf.frob.com>
On 02/08, Roland McGrath wrote:
>
> > Q: when the tracer exits we bypass ptrace_disable() and
> > clear_tsk_thread_flag(TIF_SYSCALL_TRACE), is this correct?
>
> It's always been that way. It's obviously wrong in an abstract sense. But
> for me, ptrace today is purely about compatibility with how it's behaved in
> the past, however stupid that was--whenever it's been fully consistent and
> predictable, userland is already saddled with coping with the stupidity.
>
> > Perhaps we should move this code into __ptrace_unlink?
>
> Locking nightmare. ptrace_disable can do stuff that may require the thread
> to be stopped like other ptrace operations require (fiddle registers),
> might include access_process_vm, etc. Trust me, we don't want to go there
> now.
OK, thanks.
> (In case you were looking for reasons why I'll be soon advocating
> reorganization to get ptrace entirely out of the tasklist_lock arena, this
> is a fine example of the true horror that the current data structure set-up
> gives us.)
Heh. No, I don't need yet another reason to remove tasklist from ptrace ;)
This would be obviously great.
(btw, I do remember I promised the cleanup, will send a bit later).
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-09 1:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-08 18:47 [PATCH -mm 0/3] ptrace: detach wakeup fixes Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-09 0:54 ` Roland McGrath
2009-02-09 1:43 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-02-09 20:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
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