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From: Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>
To: Harald Hoyer <harald@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, power@bughost.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tracer for sys_open() - sreadahead
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:54:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090209135431.GD3205@nb.net.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49902E57.5000406@redhat.com>

On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 02:23:35PM +0100, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> Karel Zak wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 03:44:42PM +0100, Harald Hoyer wrote:
>>> Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>>> * Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue 2009-01-27 12:08:04, Kok, Auke wrote:
>>>>>> This tracer monitors regular file open() syscalls. This is a fast
>>>>>> and low-overhead alternative to strace, and does not allow or
>>>>>> require to be attached to every process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The tracer only logs succesfull calls, as those are the only ones we
>>>>>> are currently interested in, and we can determine the absolute path
>>>>>> of these files as we log.
>>>>> Maybe fanotify() should be used instead?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or maybe just plain strace? One slow boot should not really hurt...
>>>> ptrace is out of question for good tracing because it's not a  
>>>> transparent probe. (ptrace monopolizes the traced task - if we use 
>>>> that then we break regular strace usage.)
>>>>
>>>> 	Ingo
>>> Can strace can be used on init?
>>>
>>> $ man strace
>>> ...
>>>        On Linux, exciting as it would be, tracing the init process is forbidden.
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Any hope getting _any_ mechanism in the kernel??
>>
>>  Do you remember Linux Auditing System? That's RH's baby with hooks to
>>  all relevant syscalls. It would be better to fix/improve the current
>>  kernel mechanisms that introduce a new one.
>
> Yes, I do remember it, because this is how the current fedora readahead
> gathers its data. It delays the audit daemon, because there is no clean 
> way to hook into the stream. I asked to add a second "channel" (auditd 
> wants the kernel socket for its own)...

 yes, it'd be nice to support arbitrary number of connections and
 rules per connection. (.. or export audit stuff to userspace by a
 special pseudo filesystem (see cgroups, debugfs, ...)).

    Karel

-- 
 Karel Zak  <kzak@redhat.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-09 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-27 20:08 [PATCH] tracer for sys_open() - sreadahead Kok, Auke
2009-01-27 20:51 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2009-01-27 21:14   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-01-28 22:05     ` Kok, Auke
2009-01-29  0:45       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2009-01-29 13:39         ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-01-29 13:40           ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-01-27 22:43 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-01-27 22:50   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-01-29 14:04     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-29 14:29       ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-01-29 14:31         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-29 14:40           ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-01-29 14:48             ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-01-29 15:09             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-29 15:17               ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-01-29 15:34               ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-01-29 15:53                 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-01-28  0:43   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-01-28 13:58     ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-01-28 14:29       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2009-01-28  9:38   ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2009-01-28 14:21     ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-01-28 17:00       ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2009-01-28 17:15         ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-01-28 22:19   ` Kok, Auke
2009-01-30 20:22 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-03 13:32   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-05 14:44     ` Harald Hoyer
2009-02-05 15:07       ` Bill Nottingham
2009-02-05 15:14         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-05 15:24           ` Bill Nottingham
2009-02-05 15:47             ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-06 23:18               ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-02-09 13:13       ` Karel Zak
2009-02-09 13:23         ` Harald Hoyer
2009-02-09 13:54           ` Karel Zak [this message]
2009-02-11 10:44             ` Harald Hoyer

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