From: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] async: Asynchronous function calls to speed up kernel boot
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:31:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090216113126.3e54863a@gondolin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090215111636.5b6cc507@infradead.org>
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 11:16:36 -0800,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org> wrote:
> * The caller needs to provide the memory
> - solves the case of the internal implementation getting a failed
> allocation. BUT it does not solve the caller not getting memory,
> it shifts the complexity to there.
> - ... or needs to cope with the call potentially failing if it
> lets the infrastructure to do the allocation
We could provide a small wrapper that allocates memory for the simple
case - but having the caller provide the memory makes it more flexible.
> * The caller needs to wait (at some point) for the operation to
> complete, and then take care of freeing the memory.
> (the memory obviously could be part of some natural structure that
> already has its own lifecycle rules)
So it's not so much freeing as giving up a reference.
> * There must be enough worker threads such that deadlocks due to all
> threads waiting on each other will not happen. Practically this
> probably means that if there is no progress, we need to just swallow
> the pill and make more threads. In addition we can borrow the thread
> context of the threads that are waiting for work to complete
> - alternative is to have 2 (or more) classes of work with a reserved
> thread pool for each, but I'm very not fond of this idea, because
> then all the advantages of sharing the implementation go away again,
> and over time we'll end up with many such classes
> * The caller is not allowed to use the same memory for scheduling
> multiple outstanding function calls (this is fundamentally different
> from schedule_work, which does allow this).
> - we could make a flag that marks an item as "if the function and data
> are the same silently allow it" but I'm not too fond of that idea,
> it'll be fragile.
Agreed, that would be fragile. The caller should be able to take care
of it best.
> Practically: the scheduled function is not allowed to make the metadata
> memory go away. At least for those cases where we later want to wait
> for the opertation; in principle we could do away with this requirement
> if we know nobody will ever wait for the operation.
But that would artificially limit the usefulness.
> Second practical issue:
> We can have a flag in the metadata that says that the infrastructure is
> supposed to kfree() the metadata at the end.
I tried that, but didn't like the result.
> Or we can go wild and stick
> a pointer in of the function that needs to be called to free the
> metadata.
krefs start to look attractive...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-16 10:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-07 23:11 [PATCH 0/7] V3 of the async function call patches Arjan van de Ven
2009-01-07 23:12 ` [PATCH 1/7] async: Asynchronous function calls to speed up kernel boot Arjan van de Ven
2009-01-08 0:31 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2009-01-08 1:17 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-01-13 20:48 ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-01-14 11:34 ` Cornelia Huck
2009-02-14 0:22 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-14 4:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-14 7:29 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-15 19:16 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-15 22:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 10:31 ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2009-01-07 23:12 ` [PATCH 2/7] fastboot: make scsi probes asynchronous Arjan van de Ven
2009-01-07 23:13 ` [PATCH 3/7] fastboot: make the libata port scan asynchronous Arjan van de Ven
2009-01-07 23:13 ` [PATCH 4/7] fastboot: Make libata initialization even more async Arjan van de Ven
2009-01-07 23:14 ` [PATCH 5/7] async: make the final inode deletion an asynchronous event Arjan van de Ven
2009-01-07 23:14 ` [PATCH 6/7] bootchart: improve output based on Dave Jones' feedback Arjan van de Ven
2009-01-07 23:15 ` [PATCH 7/7] async: don't do the initcall stuff post boot Arjan van de Ven
2009-01-08 0:17 ` [PATCH 0/7] V3 of the async function call patches Linus Torvalds
2009-01-08 1:21 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-01-15 8:10 ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-09 20:21 ` Ryan Hope
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20090216113126.3e54863a@gondolin \
--to=cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=arjan@infradead.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox