From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752743AbZBPSZ3 (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:25:29 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751402AbZBPSZQ (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:25:16 -0500 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]:41211 "EHLO smtp4-g21.free.fr" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751303AbZBPSZP (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:25:15 -0500 From: Philippe Grenard To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: PROBLEM: cannot get stable system since 2.6.28 kernel (amd64) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:25:40 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (Linux/2.6.27.10-phiphi; KDE/4.2.0; x86_64; ; ) Cc: "John Stoffel" References: <200902131944.56634.philippe.grenard@laposte.net> <200902151317.11690.philippe.grenard@laposte.net> <18840.45474.829954.528820@stoffel.org> In-Reply-To: <18840.45474.829954.528820@stoffel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200902161925.40256.philippe.grenard@laposte.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Monday 16 February 2009 01:21:54 John Stoffel wrote: > >>>>> "Philippe" == Philippe Grenard writes: > > Philippe> On Saturday 14 February 2009 10:24:51 Jaswinder Singh Rajput wrote: > >> On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Philippe Grenard > >> > >> wrote: > >> > On Friday 13 February 2009 21:48:30 John Stoffel wrote: > >> >> Here's your problem most probably. The nVidia graphics module. > >> >> Remove that and re-try your system. Basically, we can't help you > >> >> when you use a vendor's binary module. > >> >> > >> >> John > >> > > >> > Well, it does not change anything to my problem... > >> > Moreover, I don't understand why this would work with 2.6.27.10 but > >> > not with 2.6.29-rc4 .... > >> > >> May be nvidia graphics module was written based on some kernel which > >> is more closer to 2.6.27.10 as compare to 2.6.29-rc4. > >> > >> Another thing which John is pointing configure your bios to use > >> standard inbuild garphics card OR remove nvidia module and check > >> whether it solves your problem or not. > >> > >> -- > >> JSR > > Philippe> As I said just before, I tried it but it does not change my > Philippe> problem : the system still stalls randomly, sometimes during > Philippe> boot, sometimes after... > > This smells even more of hardware problems then. Did you change > anything recently besides your kernel? And does the system still > reliably run with the older kernel? > > If you have a second Linux computer, you can setup a newconsole to > hopefully capture and then post more details about your system when it > boots and crashes. > > I'd personally pull any extra disks, re-seat memory, turn down the > systems settings in the BIOS to very conservative numbers, etc. No > overclocking at all. > > Also, try removing all but one memory module and seeing if that helps. > > John Thanks for your attention. well, I don't really believe in hardware problem for two reasons : 1st, nearly all my hardware is quite new ( < 1 year old ), which is, I agree, not a solid proof ;-) 2nd, the problem is really repetitive : every time I boot on older kernel, everything works like a charm, every time I boot on the newer kernel, I end up crashing : the "random" part is only the time before crash.... I haven't any "overclocking" settings, and every hardware and bios settings are the same : same computer, same harddisk partition, and so on. 2.6.28 will everytime stop after "Booting the kernel". 2.6.29-rc* will boot, but then stalls after a random delay... Except the "/proc/cpuinfo" difference between the two kernels, I don't have a clue.... The thing is I can continue using the old kernel, but I thought I better report this since It could hide some regression on amd64 systems ? I'm just a regular user, so I really lack debugging experience... Philippe