From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Q: smp.c && barriers (Was: [PATCH 1/4] generic-smp: remove single ipi fallback for smp_call_function_many())
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:02:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090216220214.GA10093@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1234820704.30178.396.camel@laptop>
On 02/16, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 22:32 +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > I was about to write a response, but found it to be a justification for
> > > the read_barrier_depends() at the end of the loop.
> >
> > I forgot to mention I don't understand the read_barrier_depends() at the
> > end of the loop as well ;)
>
> Suppose cpu0 adds to csd to cpu1:
>
>
> cpu0: cpu1:
>
> add entry1
> mb();
> send ipi
> run ipi handler
> read_barrier_depends()
> while (!list_empty()) [A]
> do foo
>
> add entry2
> mb();
> [no ipi -- we still observe entry1]
>
> remove foo
> read_barrier_depends()
> while (!list_empty()) [B]
Still can't understand.
cpu1 (generic_smp_call_function_single_interrupt) does
list_replace_init(q->lock), this lock is also taken by
generic_exec_single().
Either cpu1 sees entry2 on list, or cpu0 sees list_empty()
and sends ipi.
> The read_barrier_depends() matches the mb() on the other cpu, without
> which the 'new' entry might not be observed.
And that mb() looks unneeded too. Again, because
generic_smp_call_function_single_interrupt() takes call_single_queue.lock
before it uses "data".
Even if I missed something (very possible), then I can't understand
why we need rmb() only on alpha.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-16 22:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-16 16:38 [PATCH 0/4] generic smp helpers vs kmalloc Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 16:38 ` [PATCH 1/4] generic-smp: remove single ipi fallback for smp_call_function_many() Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 19:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-16 19:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 20:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-16 20:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 21:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 12:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-16 20:49 ` Q: smp.c && barriers (Was: [PATCH 1/4] generic-smp: remove single ipi fallback for smp_call_function_many()) Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-16 21:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 21:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-16 21:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 22:02 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-02-16 22:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 23:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 9:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 10:11 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-17 10:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 10:39 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-17 11:26 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-17 11:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 15:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-18 2:15 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-18 2:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-17 19:28 ` Q: " Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 21:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-17 21:45 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 22:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-18 13:52 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-18 16:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-18 16:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 16:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-18 16:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 17:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 17:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 17:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-18 17:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 17:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-18 17:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 18:33 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-18 16:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-02-19 0:12 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-19 6:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-19 13:11 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-19 15:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 21:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-18 2:21 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-18 13:59 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-18 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-18 16:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 18:43 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-18 19:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 23:55 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-19 12:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 12:29 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-19 12:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 22:00 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-20 10:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 18:56 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-20 19:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 23:28 ` Jack Steiner
2009-02-25 3:32 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-25 12:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-25 18:25 ` Luck, Tony
2009-03-17 18:16 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-03-18 8:51 ` [tip:x86/x2apic] x86: add x2apic_wrmsr_fence() to x2apic flush tlb paths Suresh Siddha
2009-02-17 12:40 ` Q: smp.c && barriers (Was: [PATCH 1/4] generic-smp: remove single ipi fallback for smp_call_function_many()) Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 15:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-17 15:40 ` [PATCH] generic-smp: remove kmalloc() Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 17:21 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 17:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 17:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 18:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 19:29 ` [PATCH -v4] generic-ipi: " Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 20:02 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 20:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 20:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 20:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 20:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 22:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 22:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 21:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-17 21:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 16:38 ` [PATCH 2/4] generic-smp: remove kmalloc usage Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 0:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-17 8:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 9:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-17 9:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 10:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 4:50 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-18 16:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 0:00 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-19 12:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 4:31 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-19 9:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-19 11:04 ` Jens Axboe
2009-02-19 16:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-17 15:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-16 16:38 ` [PATCH 3/4] generic-smp: properly allocate the cpumasks Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 23:17 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-16 16:38 ` [PATCH 4/4] generic-smp: clean up some of the csd->flags fiddling Peter Zijlstra
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