From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756069AbZBPXYU (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:24:20 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751865AbZBPXX7 (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:23:59 -0500 Received: from cavan.codon.org.uk ([93.93.128.6]:34596 "EHLO vavatch.codon.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751851AbZBPXX6 (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:23:58 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:23:30 +0000 From: Matthew Garrett To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" Cc: Arjan van de Ven , "Woodruff, Richard" , Alan Stern , Kyle Moffett , Oliver Neukum , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , pm list , LKML , Arve =?iso-8859-1?B?SGr4bm5lduVn?= , Pavel Machek , Nigel Cunningham , mark gross , Uli Luckas , Igor Stoppa , Brian Swetland , Len Brown Subject: Re: [RFD] Automatic suspend Message-ID: <20090216232329.GA15678@srcf.ucam.org> References: <13B9B4C6EF24D648824FF11BE896716203771DD01B@dlee02.ent.ti.com> <20090216145948.6fea81c3@infradead.org> <200902170019.40599.rjw@sisk.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200902170019.40599.rjw@sisk.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mjg59@codon.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on vavatch.codon.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:19:38AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > This, again, seems to be a bit x86-centric. :-) The Android people are telling > us that on the hardware they deal with it does make sense to put the entire > system to sleep even for relatively short periods of time, since the latencies > involved are not too bad. Arve said that the power state was equivalent in idle and suspend, but that they preferred suspend because it stopped any periodic timers. I'd be more interested in making sure that unnecessary timers aren't running than focusing on automatically entering system-wide suspend - Nokia have been managing this since 2005 with good results. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org