From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753765AbZBQOTv (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:19:51 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751321AbZBQOTl (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:19:41 -0500 Received: from cavan.codon.org.uk ([93.93.128.6]:46651 "EHLO vavatch.codon.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751705AbZBQOTl (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:19:41 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:19:24 +0000 From: Matthew Garrett To: Brian Swetland Cc: Pavel Machek , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , pm list , LKML , Arve Hj?nnev?g , Alan Stern , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Nigel Cunningham , mark gross , "Woodruff, Richard" , Uli Luckas , Igor Stoppa , Len Brown Subject: Re: [RFD] Automatic suspend Message-ID: <20090217141924.GA25335@srcf.ucam.org> References: <200902160010.16955.rjw@sisk.pl> <20090216225831.GH1370@ucw.cz> <20090216231324.GA15435@srcf.ucam.org> <20090216232259.GK1370@ucw.cz> <20090216232619.GB15678@srcf.ucam.org> <20090217141434.GA12378@bulgaria.corp.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090217141434.GA12378@bulgaria.corp.google.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mjg59@codon.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on vavatch.codon.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 06:14:34AM -0800, Brian Swetland wrote: > [Matthew Garrett ] > > https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/linux-pm/2009-January/019493.html > > says that they're the same on their current platform. > > Well on the Qualcomm MSM72xx SoCs, yeah they're pretty similar -- we can > reasonably enter power collapse (full shutdown of the ARM11 and > peripherals) from idle. But this is not (to my knowledge) true of *all* > SoCs out there. Also, resuming from this state can take 5-30ms > (depending on how distracted the baseband processor is by what's going > on on the network). Mm. Resume from deep idle on x86 is typically in the usec range, but this is the kind of constraint that pm_qos exposes nicely. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org