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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:51:41 +0000
From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
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On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 06:46:30AM -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote:

> actually with powertop... on the open source side things are actually
> won. It took all of 6 months...
> I don't see that as a valid excuse. In fact, if this kind of solution
> makes real userspace scheduled timers to be missed then I consider it a
> serious functionality misfeature.

Remember that Android has an open marketplace designed to appeal to Java 
programmers - users are going to end up downloading code from there and 
then blaming the platform if their battery life heads towards zero. I 
think "We can't trust our userland not to be dumb" is a valid concern.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org