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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Alain Knaff <alain@knaff.lu>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: tip: bzip2/lzma now in tip:x86/setup-lzma
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:09:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090218210917.GQ5038@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <499C670F.9090203@zytor.com>

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:52:47AM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Alain Knaff wrote:
> >
> >Maybe another solution would be to make the choice of builtin ramdisk
> >compression user-selectable, and default to no compression at all.
> >
> 
> That might just make most sense.
> 
> >Indeed, in the default case, the builtin ramdisk is so small (950 bytes
> >uncompressed), that it probably wouldn't really matter anyways.
> >
> >The only case where it matters is for developers of embedded systems who
> >want to replace the builtin ramdisk with a fully populated one, because
> >their boot loader does not support loading a "normal" initrd.
> >
> >These people are (hopefully) knowledgeable enough to pick an appropriate
> >compressor (but there's still the issue of notifying them about the
> >change, obviously).
> >
> >Btw, what *is* the standard work flow of supplying your own built-in
> >initramfs? Do such developers usually supply a directory tree, or do
> >they already cpio it before supplying it to the kernel? Or do they even
> >compress it themselves?
> 
> The normal thing is that you point the kernel build to an 
> out-of-the-kernel-build-tree directory.

FWIW I'm personally used to include my kernel's modules into its own
initramfs, so that I can have a common generic rootfs image in a
separate initrd and multiple kernels using the same initrd. This
allows me to easily and quickly boot full-featured kernels from CD,
USB sticks or even PXE, load modules depending on my usages, and
only have to care about some kernel build options (typically SMP/UP)
without having to repackage anything in the root fs. This brings me
the best of modules and monolithic kernels, and that's very convenient.

The build process is not trivial, as I have to proceed in two steps
to package the kernel's own modules into the initramfs before building
the final vmlinux. But scripts make that easier.

Willy


  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-18 21:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-04 21:46 update8 [PATCH 2/5] init: bzip2 or lzma -compressed kernels and initrds Alain Knaff
2009-01-04 23:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-04 23:12   ` Alain Knaff
2009-01-04 23:14     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-04 23:21       ` Alain Knaff
2009-01-04 23:58         ` tip: bzip2/lzma now in tip:x86/setup-lzma H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-05  3:03           ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-05  5:09             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-05  5:42               ` Sam Ravnborg
     [not found]           ` <49615136.9080900@knaff.lu>
     [not found]             ` <4961580A.1020301@zytor.com>
     [not found]               ` <4961A816.40302@knaff.lu>
     [not found]                 ` <4961A997.10108@zytor.com>
     [not found]                   ` <4961ADC5.6030108@knaff.lu>
     [not found]                     ` <49622DE9.2010200@zytor.com>
     [not found]                       ` <496240DF.2010102@knaff.lu>
     [not found]                         ` <49624F6C.8010103@zytor.com>
     [not found]                           ` <4962522F.20804@knaff.lu>
     [not found]                             ` <496255B0.1050208@zytor.com>
2009-01-05 18:57                               ` Alain Knaff
2009-01-05 19:36                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-05 22:07                                   ` Alain Knaff
2009-01-05 22:11                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-05 22:12                                       ` Alain Knaff
2009-01-05 22:59                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-06  7:09                                           ` Alain Knaff
2009-01-06  7:21                                             ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-06  7:22                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-06  7:30                                               ` Alain Knaff
2009-01-06 21:57                                           ` [bzip2/lzma] fix for built-in initramfs issue Alain Knaff
2009-01-06 22:48                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-06 22:50                                               ` Alain Knaff
2009-01-06 22:58                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-06 22:58                                                   ` Alain Knaff
2009-01-06  7:18                                       ` tip: bzip2/lzma now in tip:x86/setup-lzma Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-01-06  7:24                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-06  7:53                                           ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-01-06  8:27                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-17 21:03           ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-02-17 21:05             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-17 22:08               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-17 23:37                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18  0:52                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-18  7:48                     ` Alain Knaff
2009-02-18  9:20                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-02-18  9:40                         ` Alain Knaff
2009-02-18 10:29                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-02-18 19:53                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-19  6:14                             ` Alain Knaff
2009-02-19 14:46                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-19 15:41                                 ` Alain Knaff
2009-02-19 18:03                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-18 19:52                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-18 21:09                         ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2009-02-19 20:11                       ` Alain Knaff
2009-03-01 13:16                         ` Alain Knaff
2009-03-01 19:27                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-02  9:53                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-02  9:54                             ` Alain Knaff
2009-03-02 10:22                               ` Ingo Molnar

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