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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Definition of BUG on x86
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:49:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090219144902.GA8650@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1235048535.15053.52.camel@nathan.suse.cz>


* Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz> wrote:

> Ingo Molnar píše v Čt 19. 02. 2009 v 13:47 +0100:
> > * Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz> wrote:
> > 
> > > Ingo Molnar píše v Čt 19. 02. 2009 v 13:22 +0100:
> > > > * Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Ingo Molnar píše v Čt 19. 02. 2009 v 13:10 +0100:
> > > > > > * Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > So, the only method I could invent was using gas macros. It 
> > > > > > > works but is quite ugly, because it relies on the actual 
> > > > > > > assembler instruction which is generated by the compiler. Now, 
> > > > > > > AFAIK gcc has always translated "for(;;)" into a jump to self, 
> > > > > > > and that with any conceivable compiler options, but I don't 
> > > > > > > know anything about Intel cc.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > +static inline __noreturn void discarded_jmp(void)
> > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > +	asm volatile(".macro jmp target\n"
> > > > > > > +		     "\t.purgem jmp\n"
> > > > > > > +		     ".endm\n");
> > > > > > > +	for (;;) ;
> > > > > > > +}
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > hm, that's very fragile.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Why not just:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  static inline __noreturn void x86_u2d(void)
> > > > > >  {
> > > > > > 	asm volatile("u2d\n");
> > > > > >  }
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If GCC emits a bogus warning about _that_, then it's a bug in 
> > > > > > the compiler that should be fixed.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I wouldn't call it a bug. The compiler has no idea about what 
> > > > > the inline assembly actualy does. So it cannot recognize that 
> > > > > the ud2 instruction does not return (which BTW might not even 
> > > > > be the case, depending on the implementation of the Invalid 
> > > > > Opcode exception).
> > > > 
> > > > No, i'm not talking about the inline assembly.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm talking about the x86_u2d() _inline function_, which has 
> > > > the __noreturn attribute.
> > > > 
> > > > Shouldnt that be enough to tell the compiler that it ... wont 
> > > > return?
> > > 
> > > Nope, that's not how it works.
> > > 
> > > You _may_ specify a noreturn attribute to any function (and 
> > > GCC will honour it AFAICS), but if GCC _thinks_ that the 
> > > function does return, it will issue the above-mentioned 
> > > warning:
> > > 
> > > /usr/src/linux-2.6/arch/x86/include/asm/bug.h:10: warning: 'noreturn' function does return
> > > 
> > > And that's what your function will do. :-(
> > > 
> > > Yes, I also thinks that this behaviour is counter-intuitive. 
> > > Besides, I haven't found a gcc switch to turn this warning 
> > > off, which would be my next recommendation, since the GCC 
> > > heuristics is broken, of course.
> > 
> > so GCC should be fixed and improved here, on several levels.
> 
> Agree.
> 
> But it takes some time, even if we start pushing right now. 
> What's your suggestion for the meantime? Keep the dummy jmp? 
> And in case anybody is concerned about saving every byte in 
> the text section, they can apply my dirty patch?
> 
> Actually, this doesn't sound too bad.

yeah. Please forward the problem to the appropriate GCC list in 
any case.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-19 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1234975856.15053.16.camel@nathan.suse.cz>
     [not found] ` <499C4786.5010504@goop.org>
2009-02-19 11:40   ` Definition of BUG on x86 Petr Tesarik
2009-02-19 12:10     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 12:19       ` Petr Tesarik
2009-02-19 12:22         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 12:38           ` Petr Tesarik
2009-02-19 12:47             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 13:02               ` Petr Tesarik
2009-02-19 14:49                 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-02-19 15:32                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-19 15:35                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 16:11                       ` Petr Tesarik
2009-02-19 16:16                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 16:34                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-19 16:41                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 20:07                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-19 20:26                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 16:55                           ` Petr Tesarik
2009-02-19 16:32                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-19 18:38     ` H. Peter Anvin

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