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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Definition of BUG on x86
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:26:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090219202647.GB784@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <499DBBEF.2090508@zytor.com>


* H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:

> Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
>> Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>> Well, the important question is thatGCC will optimize out whatever  
>>> comes after the __builtin_trap(), right? To guarantee an assert we 
>>> can do something like:
>>>
>>>      __builtin_trap();
>>>     panic("should never get here");
>>>
>>> to guarantee a message. (But realistically GCC will at most generate 
>>> a build error.)
>>>   
>>
>> Ah, right, I remember the problem.  There's no guaranteed way of 
>> getting the address of the ud2a instruction __builtin_trap generates to 
>> put it into the bug table.
>>
>
> Did we actually run into any instance where that failed?
>
> It's true that it's not guaranteed, but it seems highly 
> unlikely that it would happen in real life.  We *could* do a 
> forward search at that point, that should catch the vast 
> majority of the failing cases, again, but once again there are 
> no guarantees.
>
> I guess I should ask the gcc people...

The whole thing is borderline anyway (the win is small), and the 
combination of relying on __builtin_trap() [which is documented 
as a non-stable interface], and the reliance on basic block 
non-ordering.

Another complication is that this is _debug_ code - i.e. if 
there's a rare bug here we'll only see it if a bug triggers 
there - which is very rare in itself.

So i'm rather uneasy to rely on GCC to this level. They should 
allow to pass __noreturn to asm()s - that's a far cleaner 
approach.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-19 20:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1234975856.15053.16.camel@nathan.suse.cz>
     [not found] ` <499C4786.5010504@goop.org>
2009-02-19 11:40   ` Definition of BUG on x86 Petr Tesarik
2009-02-19 12:10     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 12:19       ` Petr Tesarik
2009-02-19 12:22         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 12:38           ` Petr Tesarik
2009-02-19 12:47             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 13:02               ` Petr Tesarik
2009-02-19 14:49                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 15:32                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-19 15:35                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 16:11                       ` Petr Tesarik
2009-02-19 16:16                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 16:34                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-19 16:41                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 20:07                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-19 20:26                               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-02-19 16:55                           ` Petr Tesarik
2009-02-19 16:32                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-19 18:38     ` H. Peter Anvin

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