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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl,
	ego@in.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de, andi@firstfloor.org,
	venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com, vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	arun@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] timers: framework for migration between CPU
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:53:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090220215318.GA30665@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090220115745.43d202d6@infradead.org>


* Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:07:37 +0100
> Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > * Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > > I'd also suggest to not do that rather ugly 
> > > > enable_timer_migration per-cpu variable, but simply reuse 
> > > > the existing nohz.load_balancer as a target CPU.
> > > 
> > > This is a good idea to automatically bias the timers.  But 
> > > this nohz.load_balancer is a very fast moving target and we 
> > > will need some heuristics to estimate overall system idleness 
> > > before moving the timers.
> > > 
> > > I would agree that the power saving load balancer has a good 
> > > view of the system and can potentially guide the timer biasing 
> > > framework.
> > 
> > Yeah, it's a fast moving target, but it already concentrates 
> > the load somewhat.
> > 
> 
> I wonder if the real answer for this isn't to have timers be 
> considered schedulable-entities and have the regular scheduler 
> decide where they actually run.

hm, not sure - it's a bit heavy for that.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-20 21:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-20 12:55 [RFC PATCH 0/4] timers: framework for migration between CPU Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-02-20 12:57 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] timers: framework to identify pinned timers Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-02-20 12:58 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] timers: sysfs hook to enable timer migration Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-02-20 13:00 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] timers: identifying the existing pinned hrtimers Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-02-20 13:01 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] timers: logic to enable timer migration Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-02-20 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] timers: framework for migration between CPU Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 14:14   ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-02-20 16:07     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 19:57       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-20 21:53         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-02-23  7:55           ` Balbir Singh
2009-02-23  9:11             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23  9:48               ` Balbir Singh
2009-02-23 10:22                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 11:24                   ` Balbir Singh
2009-02-23 10:38                 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-02-23 11:07                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 11:25                     ` Balbir Singh
2009-02-26  8:58                     ` Dipankar Sarma
2009-02-26 15:45                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-26 16:02                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-26 16:12                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23  7:59   ` Arun R Bharadwaj

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